Message from Erika in Nice Respectable People Group #media_about_ie
He took a lot of flak for that.
I even remember watching a video of him in Hungary and talking about a statue of George Washington and how American nationalism was the way forward not the "alt-right", I thought he was being over dramatic, but he was right.
RamZPaul called Anglin and Weev feds. He's a clown.
Yes he was right about 1.0, but for all the wrong reasons.
Even his criticism and departure from Richard over hailgate was ill-timed. Yes Dick turned out to be a prick after that, but hailgate alone was not a reason to react as RamZ did.
Yes, Ramz has gone a bit overboard with the fed accusations, but are Anglin and Weev people we actually want to hitch our wagon to in any way? Lol
For all of Ramzes issues, he's still a million times more reasonable and appealing than Anglin or Weev and the majority of the sperg aimed content they put out/say.
I have to disagree there. Anglin and Weev, behind the brutal satire, are actually some of the smartest guys I have read in the movement. Almost all of their advice regarding IRL activity is in line with us.
They were promoting Atomwaffen not too long ago though
And how long did Anglin use swastikas on his site for? Weev has a freaking swastika tattoo.
@Reinhard Wolff Really? I suspect that is probably satire. Everything of Anglin's I have read has been entirely contrary to that of Atomwaffen.
@Erika A website is entirely different from IRL. Weev is one of the greatest critics of IRL demonstrations. One of the earliest Spencer critics on his blog. Apart from advocating uniforms, Anglin has argued against virtually everything TWP and CO. represent.
No, they supported AW.
Anglin seems to be very supportive of our strategy, didnt know about the AW thing
They liked AWD's promo videos iirc
Long time ago
Before the murders
I still cannot help but suspect that is just really dry irony on his part. https://www.youtube.com/user/weevlos
Almost all of his videos as of late pretty much advocate for what we're doing.
He repeatedly tells guys to infiltrate the system and not get doxxed.
People can learn and grow too. Anglin is on our side now, whether or not he thought AWD looked "cool" in the past.
@Deleted User there's very little difference between people who are Stormers online and who attend public events. Have you met a group of Stormers or guys who idolize Anglin and Weev? If you attended Charlottesville, the Stormers showed up with signs with the n-word on them, following around Azzmador, chanting about "the k**es" while carrying around a banner with iron crosses naming the jew on it.
Is it good Anglin changed his tone? Yeah. But he's one of the main figures who facilitated and fostered all of the negativity many of us hate about the alt-right now.
Many of my best IE guys are from the Stormer.
Naxalt isn't an argument.
It's impossible to actually count how many DS readers are good guys and how many are spergs.
It's all guesswork. Cville could've been the exceptions.
^^ It is true there are some spergs out there upon whom irony falls on deaf ears, just as there are spergs like RZP who also lack an ear for irony, but fall on the other side of the literalist interpretation.
Anglin and Weev together have been all aboard the optics train for awhile now.
I just know the vast majority of the FL Gators were Stormers, and many of them were an absolute nightmare to be around in public. Witnessed many Stormers in Charlottesville who only cared for self-indulgent extremism. There are guys who love the Stormer and follow it religiously who can keep the LARPing under control, but that's not my experience with that crowd.
They gave me ulcers at Cville2.
"Dear God these guys are gonna get us arrested."
@Deleted User a swastika tattoo and saying the K and N words on podcasts, among other things, is being on the optics train?
Tattoos are forever, even after you change your mind...
Ramzpaul did nothing wrong. I've realized this now. Even if he reported weev, weev has now come to agree with Ramzpaul's original premise to begin with haha
Again, you are failing to differentiate between "web" identity and "meatspace" identity. Weev understands that his personality as seen on the web will not appeal in real life, as he has said numerous times on his Youtube channel. The Stormer serves one central purpose: appealing to the angst of young boys doused daily with PC classes and amphetamines.
The spergs are very real and problematic, but DS has how many millions of unique page views per month? All of those people are not out marching in the streets with swazi flags. Overall Anglin's work is a net gain for white consciousness. The spergs irl are the minority of readers.
Just as the rules of warfare vary from place to place and time to time, so propaganda tactics vary between the real world and the internet.
Well, it's true that stormers are proud boys now. So very tame compared to c-ville i would imagine
Mostly Erika, but really anyone in this server who cares to read. It is possible Anglin, as Courtney implied, has realized he was not clear enough on this distinction, and therefore post-Cville has spent a greater deal of energy clarifying his position, but it does not negate the fact that there is a distinction.
Everybody that doesn't adapt to what has now been proven to work will eventually fail or fall out of favor. I see DS adapting, TRS has said they're adapting, TWP refused to adapt and died. I hope those who can be useful will adapt and the rest will get out of the way.
In a way, I feel blessed that I never listened to any of the podcast alt-right celebs or w/e before finding my path to IE. I didn't, and still don't, listen or watch any of that stuff because I have you all to guide me and teach me what's important for us.