Message from @Jondar02

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2019-10-05 11:04:14 UTC  

@mjones how do forces in general work? As in, my explanation would be that F = m • a

2019-10-05 11:04:57 UTC  

pfft!

2019-10-05 11:10:33 UTC  

As in the force F is the product our of the mass m and acceleration a. Thus more mass and same force means less acceleration, more force more acceleration and same force means less mass etc

2019-10-05 11:11:52 UTC  

Would you agree with me on that?

2019-10-05 11:14:01 UTC  

What is the F?

2019-10-05 11:15:16 UTC  

In science, the force in newtons is generally given with the letter F (with vector notation, but not possible in discord)

2019-10-05 11:15:32 UTC  

So what cause the F?

2019-10-05 11:17:03 UTC  

That is different, for instance, if you were to push a cart horizontally, there will be several forces at work.
1. You pushing the cart
2. The friction caused by the wheels
3. The friction caused by the air

2019-10-05 11:17:44 UTC  

So why are you mentuioning this?

2019-10-05 11:17:57 UTC  

Part of a long explanation

2019-10-05 11:18:37 UTC  

But it would be logically to say that if you push harder on the cart (with more force), the cart will accelerate faster

2019-10-05 11:20:10 UTC  

And here it's important to make the diffet between velocity (v) and acceleration (a)

2019-10-05 11:21:03 UTC  

v is measured in meters per second (m/s), a is measured in meters per second per second (m/s^2)

2019-10-05 11:21:26 UTC  

Acceleration is the *change* in velocity.

2019-10-05 11:21:49 UTC  

Are you claiming a falling obeject must have a force in order for it to fall in its current vector?

2019-10-05 11:21:59 UTC  

Without a force working on an object, the object would not change velocity

2019-10-05 11:22:11 UTC  

Really!

2019-10-05 11:22:27 UTC  

Yes, now throw something up in the air

2019-10-05 11:22:47 UTC  

It comes down, by which force?

2019-10-05 11:23:06 UTC  

Thats not a F though, that just what you were told, theyve figured out the kinks in their model for 200 years quite well 😉

2019-10-05 11:24:57 UTC  

What is it then? If not for a force?

2019-10-05 11:25:25 UTC  

Wernt YOU the F in throwing it up!?

2019-10-05 11:26:22 UTC  

Yes, and without a force pulling it down, it would have continued going up

2019-10-05 11:26:51 UTC  

Last thing was with gravity, but I don't think I can go there yet

2019-10-05 11:27:31 UTC  

With a force pulling it down, it would begin to fall back. What is this force?

2019-10-05 11:27:34 UTC  

Torus fields 🙂

2019-10-05 11:27:47 UTC  

Lack of resistance!

2019-10-05 11:29:58 UTC  

The weight of the atmosphere too will play apart!

2019-10-05 11:30:25 UTC  

Will get back on that, have work now. Just so you know, I don't think torus fields is a thing. Will get back on the atmosphere too

2019-10-05 11:33:10 UTC  

both are levitation with soundwaves

2019-10-05 11:50:32 UTC  

torus fields?

2019-10-05 13:10:19 UTC  
2019-10-05 13:49:09 UTC  

thanks

2019-10-05 15:57:32 UTC  

@Logrian so from what I understand, the human heart creates a field that applies a force to the object that you throw up. This force together with the weight of the atmosphere brings the object down again?

2019-10-05 15:59:10 UTC  

Also do you mean weight or mass of the atmosphere

2019-10-05 16:02:08 UTC  
2019-10-05 17:43:15 UTC  

I'd like to say a couple things: