Message from @jeremy

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2019-10-15 02:42:35 UTC  

/ means "and" or "or"

2019-10-15 02:42:53 UTC  

In urs it means or ?

2019-10-15 02:43:29 UTC  

U can’t do the scientific method without experiment bro

2019-10-15 02:43:45 UTC  

it's an experiment if you have control over the parameters, but it's less of an experiment and just observation if you really have limited control

2019-10-15 02:43:49 UTC  

I mean, that's my understanding

2019-10-15 02:44:03 UTC  

I'm just telling you what I undesrtand about it

2019-10-15 02:44:09 UTC  

i'm no expert at this though

2019-10-15 02:44:18 UTC  

Ok

2019-10-15 02:44:48 UTC  

If u just have observation that’s not experiment

2019-10-15 02:44:55 UTC  

if you're going to measure something that is already in nature, I would call it an observation and not an experiment

2019-10-15 02:44:59 UTC  

U have to manipulate the iv in an experiment

2019-10-15 02:45:36 UTC  

U can just observe an experiment though

2019-10-15 02:45:40 UTC  

Can’t

2019-10-15 02:45:43 UTC  

and in both cases, you need to make an observation (or more accurately a measurement) in order to collect data

2019-10-15 02:46:32 UTC  

@jeremy yes you're right, and Riley did not

2019-10-15 02:46:40 UTC  

Therefore his conclusion is wrong

2019-10-15 02:46:44 UTC  

Ok

2019-10-15 02:46:55 UTC  

U brought it to him and he said what ?

2019-10-15 02:47:03 UTC  

I don't think anyone has ever measured the distance of stars

2019-10-15 02:47:11 UTC  

He flipped out and said go away

2019-10-15 02:47:12 UTC  

Hey haven’t lol

2019-10-15 02:47:18 UTC  

He couldn't reconcile being wrong

2019-10-15 02:48:34 UTC  

"scientists" have only calculated the distance by using the hubble law (for far distant stars) and *maybe* some triangulation (I don't really know) for nearer stars

2019-10-15 02:48:51 UTC  

@SunRazor stellar paralax

2019-10-15 02:48:52 UTC  

@RogueReflector be careful, don't start name calling

2019-10-15 02:49:12 UTC  

yea stellar paralax

2019-10-15 02:49:31 UTC  

either way, it's calculating using models

2019-10-15 02:49:55 UTC  

I don't think we can really measure the distance to stars

2019-10-15 02:50:17 UTC  

That's based on measurements

2019-10-15 02:50:39 UTC  

U need to know the size of something or the distance to it to find out the one measurem t u don’t have

2019-10-15 02:50:58 UTC  

the measurements that are made, I might not doubt their accuracy... but it's the models used that I question

2019-10-15 02:51:33 UTC  

@jeremy ya, that's not true

2019-10-15 02:51:45 UTC  

You can do it with two angles and a distance

2019-10-15 02:51:52 UTC  

stellar paralax? fine, I can accept that. But the hubble law is founded on assumptions

2019-10-15 02:52:08 UTC  

The red shift thing?

2019-10-15 02:52:14 UTC  

yep

2019-10-15 02:52:23 UTC  

Ya I gotta read about that

2019-10-15 02:52:34 UTC  

I think it's corraborated in another way

2019-10-15 02:52:47 UTC  

Like the size of the objects has certain things going on

2019-10-15 02:52:52 UTC  

If I cut a circle out of cardboard go@in a field and u don’t know how far away I am I can tell the size of the circle ?

2019-10-15 02:53:02 UTC  

Yes,