Message from @🎃Oakheart🎃

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2019-10-07 16:08:16 UTC  

What do you guys think about famous expeditions around the world, such as magellans voyage.

2019-10-07 16:08:27 UTC  

Do you think they went in a ring?

2019-10-07 16:09:39 UTC  

Well, that's how navigation works on a sphere. It's difficult to travel in a straight line...if you're on the ground, that is.

2019-10-07 16:09:56 UTC  

Planes do it all the time, though.

2019-10-07 16:10:23 UTC  

And yes, flat earthers believe that compasses, as the point towards the center of a flat earth will navigate you in a circle around it.

2019-10-07 16:10:32 UTC  

If you stood on the pole, according to a spherical earth, you could circumnavigate the earth in a few seconds.

2019-10-07 16:10:56 UTC  

Your point being?

2019-10-07 16:11:12 UTC  

But it's confusing because if gravity was in the center of spherical planets, why would we not be pulled by massive planets.

2019-10-07 16:11:20 UTC  

Ones that are thousands of times bigger than the sun.

2019-10-07 16:11:32 UTC  

Alright, I see what you're saying

2019-10-07 16:12:03 UTC  

Okay, so first, planets can't get bigger than stars - if they did, they would collapse into one.

2019-10-07 16:12:47 UTC  

Second, planets actually can be influenced by gravity from other stars. Ever heard of rouge stars? These stars often pass through solar systems and swing planets out of orbit from their parent stars.

2019-10-07 16:14:02 UTC  

The thing is, earth is extremely close to the sun, astronomically speaking. The influence that the sun has on us is far too great for earth to be affected by the gravity from distant interstellar objects. However, if one of those objects did pass near the solar system, they would have a very real chance of stealing the earth out of orbit, or swinging it out into interstellar space.

2019-10-07 16:14:13 UTC  

This would be extremely, extremely unlikely though.

2019-10-07 16:14:45 UTC  

True

2019-10-07 16:15:14 UTC  

What are your views on sentient life, or any life for that matter, outside of Earth's bounds?

2019-10-07 16:16:13 UTC  

There are aliens

2019-10-07 16:16:22 UTC  

We became aliens when we landed on mars

2019-10-07 16:16:24 UTC  

I think it's possible for basic life forms to exist elsewhere in the universe. As for intelligent life like us? I'm not too sure about that. I think a question like that has a lot to do with one's theology.

2019-10-07 16:17:07 UTC  

It's a complicated topic. It is possible, but even if we did find life, I doubt the government would tell us.

2019-10-07 16:17:12 UTC  

Unless they had a reason to.

2019-10-07 16:17:32 UTC  

It'd cause public hysteria.

2019-10-07 16:18:47 UTC  

The government doesn't control scientists' observations. Even if they could pay them to stay quiet about it, it would be extremely difficult to cover up such a discovery. Even places with really well kept secrets like Area 51 have had many issues with keeping them in the past.

2019-10-07 16:18:57 UTC  

It also depends on what kind of life you find.

2019-10-07 16:19:27 UTC  

@🎃Oakheart🎃 everyone has cameras now, govt wouldn't be able to hide it

2019-10-07 16:19:45 UTC  

If scientists discovered giant aliens with laser eyes that are flying towards earth in death stars, I'd understand a temporary cover up on the discovery...

2019-10-07 16:19:54 UTC  

XD

2019-10-07 16:20:18 UTC  

Also note, I'm not some crazy conspiracy theorist or something, I just want to see what people think.

2019-10-07 16:20:39 UTC  

even tho i think this should be at <#538929818834698260>,this is interesting

2019-10-07 16:20:53 UTC  

That's cool. Just don't let them mislead you...it's very easy to lie about observations.

2019-10-07 16:21:16 UTC  

***it's really easy just follow the beat***

2019-10-07 16:27:11 UTC  

Yes don't let government or "scientists" mislead you. Good advise.

2019-10-07 16:28:40 UTC  

Flat earthers tell you to 'do your own research'. I say, do your own research, but actually do legitimate research. Don't watch a video and say 'well that makes sense' and begin to use those views as the standard to which you disprove other observations. A good example of flat earthers doing this is when Globebusters found that their gyroscope detected a 15 degree per hour drift - which proved a spinning earth. They immediately denied their proof and assumed it was caused by something else. This by definition is not science. They were biased in their experiment from this point onwards.

2019-10-07 16:28:57 UTC  

@Yabai who are you to say what we do

2019-10-07 16:29:05 UTC  

Who do you think you are?

2019-10-07 16:29:11 UTC  

!mute @Yabai

2019-10-07 16:29:12 UTC  

2019-10-07 16:29:30 UTC  

!ban @Yabai

2019-10-07 16:29:32 UTC  

2019-10-07 16:30:19 UTC  

FYI

2019-10-07 16:30:24 UTC  

Science is not fact