so, are the other planets flat?

and stars

Do they look flat?

We see the same stuff you see

And thats the thing, I trust what I see, and sure, it's "impossible" to see the curvature of the earth without going to extreme lengths, and even then, it could be a result of anything. But you can't exactly see if these celestial bodies are spherical in nature or not. Satellites and google earth could all be edited by the government.

Antarctica is probably the easiest to blot out because its all white.

Except, you can go to antarctica and see it for yourself...@🎃Oakheart🎃

The treaty that flat earthers rave about doesn't say that no one is allowed to enter. It establishes that the countries within the agreement won't act with military forces or utilize natural resources from that continent, among a few other conditions. This was done to preserve the continent from human disruption. Aside from that, there isn't much reason for anyone to go there aside from research or sight-seeing.

So you legally can have an expedition there?

Of course! it's pretty expensive though.

Flat earthers are aware of this, though.

I've heard stories of people trying to setup an expedition, and something tragic befalls them before it starts.

Random heart attack, loss of money, etc.

So all we are really left with are age old stories.

From past ages.

Expedition? well, I assume you mean those people who tried to traverse the entire continent on foot...

Those who attempted to raise money and start a big thing.

Can you provide an example?

Trying to dig, it was a long time ago when I read into this.

Well, if you can find it again I'd like to read it. Regardless, correlation is not causation. Many people travel to Antarctica in rather large numbers every year. The problem is, Antarctica is extremely harsh of an environment and it's still dangerous to go there.

But a lot of things don't make sense, you go far enough south and suddenly you're north, you go west, you end up east.

In the winter, it gets cold enough to kill you within seconds.

What?

Can you explain a bit further?

Yeah

One moment

I meant that if you go far enough north, you end up in the south, towards one of the poles, but it's very difficult to do so.

What do you guys think about famous expeditions around the world, such as magellans voyage.

Do you think they went in a ring?

Well, that's how navigation works on a sphere. It's difficult to travel in a straight line...if you're on the ground, that is.

Planes do it all the time, though.

And yes, flat earthers believe that compasses, as the point towards the center of a flat earth will navigate you in a circle around it.

If you stood on the pole, according to a spherical earth, you could circumnavigate the earth in a few seconds.

Your point being?

But it's confusing because if gravity was in the center of spherical planets, why would we not be pulled by massive planets.

Ones that are thousands of times bigger than the sun.

Alright, I see what you're saying

Okay, so first, planets can't get bigger than stars - if they did, they would collapse into one.

Second, planets actually can be influenced by gravity from other stars. Ever heard of rouge stars? These stars often pass through solar systems and swing planets out of orbit from their parent stars.

The thing is, earth is extremely close to the sun, astronomically speaking. The influence that the sun has on us is far too great for earth to be affected by the gravity from distant interstellar objects. However, if one of those objects did pass near the solar system, they would have a very real chance of stealing the earth out of orbit, or swinging it out into interstellar space.

This would be extremely, extremely unlikely though.