Message from Deleted User in Nice Respectable People Group #cyberstrike


2018-02-01 23:36:35 UTC  

Hit everything on there

2018-02-02 04:43:11 UTC  

Will posting happy merchants get you a ban from twitter? Asking for a friend.

2018-02-02 04:47:18 UTC  

@Felden - CO probably not, but I don't see much of a benefit to doing so.

2018-02-02 04:48:06 UTC  

There’s no use in even engaging with the jew. Aside from the lawls.

2018-02-02 04:48:37 UTC  

I deleted the memes. It would be nice to keep an account longer than a month.

2018-02-02 13:20:18 UTC  

Listen for the term "This had been planned for a while"

2018-02-02 13:20:36 UTC  

SPLC admitting to displacement as a plan

2018-02-02 14:02:05 UTC  

@Deleted User So, I've come to something of a minor epiphany just over this past week, largely from reading the reactions to the SF banner drop. I'm not sure why it's taken me so long to figure it out, but these people use the term "white supremacy" to mean the desire to maintain the cultural and numerical dominance of whites in tradtionally white countries. Under this definition, we are, in fact, white supremacists. In fact, @Reinhard Wolff's interview with Brittany Pettibone, wherein he says we have an interest in maintaining a super-majority in the United States, counts as white supremacy. Under this definition, all of us, most normal people, most baby boomers, and all of our grandparents (and all of their grandparents), are white supremacists.

2018-02-02 14:12:19 UTC  

But... does it improve our image and chances of success if we adopt that name? People instantly think of violent skinheads.

2018-02-02 14:14:43 UTC  

@Joe-MN Well, I'm in the process of questioning that paradigm. The playbook says "deny being a white supremacist," which of course makes sense. But I was in a conversation yesterday where the term came up and I said "Well, the modern definition of white supremacy is whites wanting their culture and language to predominate in the United States, and that's something that our grandparents and everyone before them took for granted." The response to me was "Well that seems like a reasonable position."

2018-02-02 14:15:35 UTC  

This conversation was with a liberal white person.

2018-02-02 14:16:25 UTC  

This comes to the question of the viability of accepting the left’s terms, and the ability we may have as far as strength in narrative control to challenge those terms.

2018-02-02 14:18:45 UTC  

Aye. I know this topic to be one of older debate, but I don't think it's difficult, in response to "you're a white supremacist" to say "If you mean I want to maintain the European cultural character of the United States, I suppose I am."

2018-02-02 14:20:19 UTC  

Under this definition, the United States has always been white supremacist. Even the Kennedys and Linden Johnson were white supremacists, touting the Hart-Cellar Act as something that would "not change the demographics of the United States." (slight paraphrase there).

2018-02-02 14:22:10 UTC  

It also puts into context the black and Jewish criticisms of the United States. In the case of blacks, I'd say "Well, you're 13% of the country's population yet you want the entire country to bend to your culture and language."

2018-02-02 14:30:52 UTC  

Hm. Also if we get them to admit that white supremacy is super evil and that all of the founding fathers were white supremacists, then WHY ARE YOU HERE?

2018-02-02 14:31:22 UTC  

Like yeah I hate all of the founders of this country, but its nice there sooo.

2018-02-02 14:32:54 UTC  

( @sigruna14 hopefully this convo has utility for cyberstriking). @Sam Anderson it's also handy for talking to boomers. "Well you grew up in a white supremacist time. You just didn't know it because it's all there was and you took it for granted."

2018-02-02 14:39:40 UTC  

Oosh, my old BUGS Swarm training wants me to push back on accepting enemy terminology, but you may have a point.

2018-02-02 14:40:36 UTC  

But Bob Whitaker is the reason everyone says "anti white" now.

2018-02-02 15:58:56 UTC  

Stick to the mantra!

2018-02-02 16:14:38 UTC  

refuse to use enemy terms

2018-02-02 16:14:48 UTC  

it's like fighting on terrain they've entrenched and prepared

2018-02-02 16:14:53 UTC  

make them fight on your terrain

2018-02-02 16:30:50 UTC  

Leftists think about these words all the time. They obsess over them. There's a reason they choose them so there's a reason we should avoid them.

2018-02-02 16:48:21 UTC  

Don't let them frame the narrative. Don't allow them to define the terms. Their use of the term is an attempt to present you in a negative light.

2018-02-02 16:49:34 UTC  

"Well, if being a Nazi just means X, then I guess I am a Nazi, by your definition. That seems reasonable." - This does not serve you well.

2018-02-02 16:50:44 UTC  

The term they are using has a negative and aggressive connotation, and is a "poison term", it's a negative denotation if supremacy is considered negatively.

2018-02-02 16:51:14 UTC  

Since you can't control how the external listener or reader approaches the term, you can't manage and frame the discussion properly.

2018-02-02 16:53:51 UTC  

Use a dialectic to dissect their ad hominem: "What do you mean by supremacist?" (they say you're ebil here) "Well, I've never said I wanted to do that, and our organization's charter doesn't say anything about doing that, and there's no reason I would want to do that, it doesn't make sense, you are smearing us without evidence."

2018-02-02 17:52:07 UTC  

Using the "If you say I'm X, then I proudly am X" is only used by provocetuers who want to sound witty.

2018-02-02 17:52:22 UTC  

In all honesty.

2018-02-02 17:53:26 UTC  

The narrative of a normie alligns with the narrative of the establishment we're against. It does us no good to affirm the narrative of the former because normies won't pick up on the irony we're implying.

2018-02-02 17:55:37 UTC  

Normies and the establishment are essentially a unified entity for the sake of analyzing optics strategies. You have to destroy the narrative before you can fend it off in witty ways. Divide the two portions of the establishment so there's an audience for the irony to begin with.

2018-02-02 17:56:20 UTC  

Audience is the most tantamount part in optics and appeal. People often forget that for the sake of riding ideological euphoria.

2018-02-02 17:59:12 UTC  

Have you established an audience? Then by all means, affirm you're a nazi, evil, white supremacist, etc. Then, people realize that the narrative is nonsence and are inclined to support you in humiliating whoever calls you that. Surefire way to garner support for even those watching online. Spectators see an audience and subconsciously assume who has the best argument and who holds the most moral ground by their group support.

2018-02-02 18:00:05 UTC  

That's how normies function. Via popular opinion. The gravity of what you say is thereby aleviated to a certain extent at that point.

2018-02-02 18:51:10 UTC  

For the same reason we don’t accept the DREAMER paradigm as legitimate because why the hell should we, I don’t believe accepting their definition of white supremacy is a good idea. Overton ain’t even close to far enough for us to consider that yet imo