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I agree, decrease the budget of the DoD and increase it for NASA and DoE (for preventing Climate Change)

it is when you consider mainly what they're doing, other than lying, is drowning rockets in the ocean

If we increase NASA budget to 1 trillion we will finally have space exploration derp

That’s speculation....

NASA is relatively broke

member' when NASA showed us the dark side of the moon with earth behind it?

50 years of constant funding tho and nothing

member' the astronaut picture with a tiny earth in the background?

yes, all real. Even though I wasn't particularly alive back then

You aside from a vast satellite network and data from other planets?

what's more speculative? drowning rockets in the sea or rockets reaching 'space'?

what's easier

they are both the truth

@chad46 please try an be more respectful in LOUNGE vc, cheers 🙂

what's cheaper?

member' when astronauts cant agree on whether or not they can see stars in space?

Seeing as we use satellites every day....

hhm

compare 1962-1969 and 1969-2019 budget and you will see that they had plenty of opportunity to space travel

and they did

they to the moon ffs

if you believe NASA then you believe China landed on the moon

sure, well india and israel failed at it

so really we can just inspect China becuase NASA supports them

extraordinary feat

They didn't do anything, we sent humans on the moon and now all we can do is send rovers? Fanboy alert

they failed their moon landings 50Years after the US did it quite easily, 6 times

if you doubt China's success then you must doubt US success

They did not go to the moon, look at this, you can see the moon in the background, they just staged in on the earth!
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/59500/Moon-in-Background-of-Moon-Landing-1969--59754.jpg

They went on the far side of the moon yet they still captured earth on tape lol. Fallacies everywhere when you explore their lies

Yeah... they were in Lunar Orbit

Ever played KSP?

perchance?

the only successful moon landing/mars landing you will ever witness will be a virtual one .. and when CGI is indistinguishable from reality then yeah that's when they win

KSP is just propaganda to convince people the earth is round and that we can reach the moon, but it's pure nonsense!

unless Mars refers to a land beyond our ice wall which is another theory

Well, what if there is no ice wall. say hypothetically the earth is a ball, spinning as we go

we wouldn't be talking right now if there was no ice wall

I disagree

ohh?