mostly

Joe for the second time France started it in 1789

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism

early roman society was a lot like 1800's america

yeah, its really crazy. Did you hear about the upcoming head transplant?

I have

Yeah but I thought it was a meme

that's some x files shit

yeah

roman started the idea of socialism

next you'll see some dipshit get his head cut off and repositioned on top of a tank that he can operate from like some sort of fucked up metal gear boss

Oh, apparently Persia tried to start a socialist religiont ype dealy in 500ish AD

that would be badass

Joe you're quite literally fucking wrong

joe you literal fucker

I hope one day we have futurama brain jars lmao

XD

I'm providing you an article that says you're wrong

no u

You should read it

Also I don't really give two shits or a fuck about who 'started' socialism

It's shit

It's a terrible idea and we shouldn't have it, the end

Did you know that Hitler read books? 🤔

rome and greek empires were destroyed the same way that they are trying to destroy our societies today

america has socialism

through diversity

no shit joe

wasnt a degree of socialism evident in every empire / monarchy the King / emperor had a monopoly on siezing resources / redistributing them especially during wartime?

Did you know Hitler liked art? You might be a Nazi if you like art

More or less, Mcorkin

But that has less to do with Marxist ideals and a lot more to do with consolidation for resource management

society wouldn't be society without some sort of social aspect

thus society will always have socialism in some degree

Anyhow yes America has more than one socialist program and they're all shitty and stupid

Successful civilizations: SOCIALISM!
Unsuccessful civilizations: certainly not socialism, real socialism has never been tried

whats the difference between a system and a program ?

@gambler joe is Venezuela real socialism?

whats "real" socialism?

socialism is a bad system anyway since it historically shows itself progressively consuming said sociaty

A system would be a collection of programs, ideals, leaders, institutions, agencies, and plenty of other shit