Message from @Notsoperfect
Discord ID: 612866251626119198
Stand By
Yes Sir.
Just my opinion, but I don’t know that you need a church. It can be a personal thing and if you get the right support of others when needed or asked. That should work. I guess I’ve got a thing about the hierarchical aspect and those at the top. It’s not about that or them. It’s about you and your relationship with God and how you’re going to live your life as you interpret his word.
Just my 2 cents for what it’s worth.
I appreciate your words @kreskin1 and I understand what you are saying. Church is full of imperfect people.. and there are always things we won't like.. but bible talks about not forsaking ourselves.. in meeting together.. for the purpose of fellowship and worshiping.. But You are right.. above all? Our relationship with the Lord is what matters. But remember you are talking to a Pastor's daughter LOL
I got booted as a kid because I guess I wasnt the type they were nurturing.
Didn’t appreciate those that go rogue I guess. Lol
I am sorry you had that experience @kreskin1
People can really stink sometimes
It was what it was.
trust me I have been disappointed in a whole lot of people in my life.. even ones at church lol
But you know that not every church.. or every pastor.. or ever christian is like that.
I think its hard when you have a bad experience as a child..it sticks with you the rest of your life.
Just like.. one Grocery store.. in your town can be dirty.. never stocked..managers are jerks.. cashiers lazy.. but the one across the street.. it the complete opposite. We are very flawed people.
I meant no disrespect, but have a little residue from that and some of the others that use it for personal benefit.
Agreed. All must be independently assessed for their character.
Yes a lot use things for their own benefit
I would agree with you that it happens
Maybe I wanted to self guide thru all of that.
I understand
@kreskin1 I understand where you're coming from. I have been on both sides of the fence. There were churches I wound up running from. Then, just stayed away for awhile. But when I found a great church finally, there's just nothing like it. You feel at home. You have good fellowship with like-minded believers, and you get lotsa support when you have troubles and need the extra prayers of a congregation.
as you said.. your relationship with the Lord is what matters above all else
Tough to challenge a pastor if you don’t see it the same way. If you get my drift.
@KLATU that made me a little emotional. lol I miss having that kind of church. AZ really needs some good churches.
I do @kreskin1
I like THIS church!
Well.. I appreciate you.. @kreskin1 and happy you are here.. you have so much to offer.
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lol
This helps me to make my way and develop a lifestyle that I feel good about and will reflect well when I see St. Peter.
God loves every single one of us.. even the deepstate. That is one amazing God.
He does do that forgiveness thing.
He does
and the Grace thing...
Thank goodness for me!
and a little Saving..
Being an engineer with a big science & logic background I shyed away from the church thing and needed verification. I’ve been on a personal quest to find truth. In that I’ve discovered that much cannot be explained by science (at least what we know) and that something greater is going on. This sponge is discovering as much as I can to generate an understanding and mental model of how all this fits together and works.
I’m getting there and am probably more spiritual now than ever.
You are seeking truth.. and that is what matters.
God will show you what you seek if you let Him
Your background really makes sense
with the way you think
You are a super smart guy