Message from @Griselda

Discord ID: 477888239945121794


2018-08-11 01:44:52 UTC  

For the keks

2018-08-11 01:51:56 UTC  

Sad part is I wasn't even looking for them at the time, just happened across a meme writing itself

2018-08-11 09:18:22 UTC  

That thread doesn’t really make much sense, the better comparison would be “ if there are no nonviolent Nazi’s there are no nonviolent marxists”

Nazi is an ideology where as Communism itself isn’t

2018-08-11 09:19:00 UTC  

But giving them that comparison with the benefit of the doubt that it’s what was meant

2018-08-11 09:19:09 UTC  

I don’t see how anything there is “a meme”

2018-08-11 10:01:10 UTC  

>Communism itself isn’t
>Nazi is an ideology

2018-08-11 10:01:18 UTC  

NatSocs would disagree

2018-08-11 10:01:23 UTC  

Commies would disagree

2018-08-11 11:13:17 UTC  

Well I don’t care what they would agree with, communism is a social order and The Nazi party was a political party

You can build an ideology around communism but it in itself is not an ideology

2018-08-11 11:13:39 UTC  

Political parties almost by definition constitute an ideology of political agendas that they want tone promote

2018-08-11 11:13:46 UTC  
2018-08-11 12:51:57 UTC  

Edit: I’ve been thinking about it and I guess I do more see how there are definitions of ideology that communism itself might fit under

2018-08-11 12:52:19 UTC  

But Nazi 100% is

2018-08-11 12:53:14 UTC  

Though I don’t know a whole ton about NatSocs, like I know what a national socialist is by definition but not really a whole lot about the specific identifier

2018-08-11 12:53:24 UTC  

But if those are the same thing then

2018-08-11 12:53:38 UTC  

NatSoc’s are an ideology too

2018-08-11 15:50:38 UTC  

I don't know what would make either of them not an ideology.

2018-08-11 17:16:39 UTC  

I should have been more clear

2018-08-11 17:16:48 UTC  

Communism itself is just a type of economy

2018-08-11 17:16:54 UTC  

Communists

2018-08-11 17:17:15 UTC  

As in people who support the changing of a society over to communism

2018-08-11 17:17:26 UTC  

Will belong to an ideology that advocates that switch

2018-08-11 17:17:33 UTC  

So communists belong to an ideology

2018-08-11 17:17:44 UTC  

But communism is not the ideology that they join

2018-08-11 17:17:49 UTC  

It’s just what

2018-08-11 17:17:55 UTC  

Whatever their ideology is

2018-08-11 17:17:57 UTC  

Supports

2018-08-11 18:47:32 UTC  

No, communism is not at all just an economy.

2018-08-11 18:48:01 UTC  

Marxism is complete with a historical philosophy and a complete restructuring of society that's ideologically motivated.

2018-08-11 18:48:49 UTC  

You have it backwards.

2018-08-11 20:33:34 UTC  

Communism ceases to be economic when the people advocating for it need the force of government to make it a reality.
Besides, this is the shitpost thread, this discussion should be in <#452955229227319306>.
I just thought the juxtaposition of the contradiction was funny.

....fuck that sounds like word salad <:facepalm:459545653509357578>

2018-08-11 20:35:19 UTC  

It is word salad, the juxtaposition is the contradiction so adding either word as a pair is redundant.

2018-08-11 20:40:32 UTC  

My inner Michael Eric Dyson came out, FML

2018-08-11 20:42:15 UTC  

There are no non-violent political ideologies

2018-08-11 20:42:40 UTC  

Even the USA was created via what would today be labelled terrorism akin with the IRA

2018-08-11 20:43:00 UTC  

There's no proof Americans even wanted independence as a whole

2018-08-11 20:43:44 UTC  

taxation is inherently violent

2018-08-11 20:43:50 UTC  

Except for, you know, that whole Declaration of Independence thing

2018-08-11 20:44:10 UTC  

declaration of independence has nothing to do with whether USA was actually supported by the common colonial

2018-08-11 20:44:36 UTC  

the IRA is a terrorist group while the American revolutionaries were not BECAUSE WE WON

2018-08-11 20:44:39 UTC  

there is no other reason