Message from @Griselda
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For the keks
Sad part is I wasn't even looking for them at the time, just happened across a meme writing itself
That thread doesn’t really make much sense, the better comparison would be “ if there are no nonviolent Nazi’s there are no nonviolent marxists”
Nazi is an ideology where as Communism itself isn’t
But giving them that comparison with the benefit of the doubt that it’s what was meant
I don’t see how anything there is “a meme”
>Communism itself isn’t
>Nazi is an ideology
NatSocs would disagree
Commies would disagree
Well I don’t care what they would agree with, communism is a social order and The Nazi party was a political party
You can build an ideology around communism but it in itself is not an ideology
Political parties almost by definition constitute an ideology of political agendas that they want tone promote
Edit: I’ve been thinking about it and I guess I do more see how there are definitions of ideology that communism itself might fit under
But Nazi 100% is
Though I don’t know a whole ton about NatSocs, like I know what a national socialist is by definition but not really a whole lot about the specific identifier
But if those are the same thing then
NatSoc’s are an ideology too
I don't know what would make either of them not an ideology.
I should have been more clear
Communism itself is just a type of economy
Communists
Will belong to an ideology that advocates that switch
So communists belong to an ideology
But communism is not the ideology that they join
It’s just what
Whatever their ideology is
Supports
No, communism is not at all just an economy.
Marxism is complete with a historical philosophy and a complete restructuring of society that's ideologically motivated.
You have it backwards.
Communism ceases to be economic when the people advocating for it need the force of government to make it a reality.
Besides, this is the shitpost thread, this discussion should be in <#452955229227319306>.
I just thought the juxtaposition of the contradiction was funny.
....fuck that sounds like word salad <:facepalm:459545653509357578>
It is word salad, the juxtaposition is the contradiction so adding either word as a pair is redundant.
My inner Michael Eric Dyson came out, FML
There are no non-violent political ideologies
Even the USA was created via what would today be labelled terrorism akin with the IRA
There's no proof Americans even wanted independence as a whole
taxation is inherently violent
Except for, you know, that whole Declaration of Independence thing
declaration of independence has nothing to do with whether USA was actually supported by the common colonial
the IRA is a terrorist group while the American revolutionaries were not BECAUSE WE WON
there is no other reason