Message from @Lotus Calme

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2018-06-10 18:42:38 UTC  

I agree that they do outstrip them.
But what we are seeing in the UK is cronyism, the government introduced "Academies" and they're just pulling most of the budget into paying the upper staffers.
Public and private have a place, I went to public school and almost all of my mates from my class and the class below, went on to get decent jobs and Masters degrees.

2018-06-10 18:43:04 UTC  

The thing is that where kids are not interested in academic learning there should be more of a push towards learning trades, rather than making them sit in a class all day.

2018-06-10 18:44:16 UTC  

Also, National Service, I'm strong believer in that being the culmination of education.
2 years of service in the armed forces or 3 in civil service.

Straighten the shitbags out, make the creme even better.

2018-06-10 18:44:55 UTC  

I have only gone to public schools;
I competed academically in decathlons, math, etc against public and private
On average, the private schools had much better and many more competitors.

2018-06-10 18:45:06 UTC  

However, I am now attending a public university

2018-06-10 18:45:20 UTC  

and it is renowned for its success

2018-06-10 18:46:01 UTC  

Well, the private schools put more into those areas, due to them being able to be more flexible with their budgets. Mainly due to lower attendance rates and higher budget per student.
A public school has to balance it all between each student.

2018-06-10 18:46:12 UTC  

I don't know about the UK, but the US's main educational problem most certainly stems from poor culture and student population

2018-06-10 18:46:24 UTC  

No Child Left Behind didn't help either

2018-06-10 18:46:41 UTC  

plus the push to put everyone in college is silly

2018-06-10 18:46:45 UTC  

Yes.

2018-06-10 18:46:49 UTC  

Very fucking stupid.

2018-06-10 18:47:22 UTC  

All that it has done is make the Bachelors Degree useless and the Masters the "standard".

2018-06-10 18:47:51 UTC  

There should be more of a focus on trade training, construction, carpentry, etc.

2018-06-10 18:50:52 UTC  

yea

2018-06-10 18:51:17 UTC  

especially with the "America needs immigrants to take up trade roles"

2018-06-10 18:53:51 UTC  

Plenty of future workers there already.
Just the push is to have those illegals outside home depot do it.

2018-06-10 19:00:02 UTC  

I think they tried to push everyone into college do that the general populus is in tech and high skilled levels which would progress the U.S as a technological superpower

2018-06-10 19:00:16 UTC  

And the immigrants would fill the low skill jobs

2018-06-10 19:00:27 UTC  

It's a nice theory but it's not applicable

2018-06-10 19:00:29 UTC  

boo on immigration

2018-06-10 19:00:31 UTC  

boo

2018-06-10 19:00:40 UTC  
2018-06-10 19:03:01 UTC  

Intelligence is proven to be a 50/50 based on nature and nuture

2018-06-10 19:05:31 UTC  

@NullJager Before my internet cuts out in a few moments, I won't be on internet for a week, I think primary education should focus on general intelligence and then once you enter high school it becomes specialized where you choose which field you want to become a master in, be it carpenter or tech.

2018-06-10 19:05:56 UTC  

@Doctor Anon I thought the ratio was around 70/30

2018-06-10 19:06:26 UTC  

50/50

2018-06-10 19:06:51 UTC  

If your parents are dumb, without the 50 nurture you'll be dumb

2018-06-10 19:07:04 UTC  

But schools can nuture that extra intelligence potential

2018-06-10 19:07:09 UTC  

I thought it was ~70%nature

2018-06-10 19:07:15 UTC  

No

2018-06-10 19:07:19 UTC  

It's 50/50

2018-06-10 19:07:36 UTC  

I'm gonna need a source

2018-06-10 19:07:46 UTC  

while I look for mine too

2018-06-10 19:08:28 UTC  

I think it is alteast

2018-06-10 19:08:48 UTC  

If I find a source before my internet cuts out as I enter the woods I'll send it

2018-06-10 19:09:47 UTC  

have fun in the woods

2018-06-10 19:10:03 UTC  

I'll probably passively look for my source, it honestly doesn't matter that much

2018-06-10 19:10:57 UTC  

Alright I have no bars

2018-06-10 19:11:00 UTC  

It's about to cut out

2018-06-10 19:11:10 UTC  

See you on the other side