Message from @Logicpoints

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2018-06-11 22:49:27 UTC  

oh what's up @Lotus Calme

2018-06-11 22:49:29 UTC  

ah yes the free market solves all problems

2018-06-11 22:49:38 UTC  

eh

2018-06-11 22:49:51 UTC  

what do you guys think of the theory

2018-06-11 22:50:00 UTC  

I see how it makes people work but I don't necessarily see how it forces people to learn english and adopt western values

2018-06-11 22:50:40 UTC  

But maybe that isn't necessary, maybe it's ok to have chinatowns and spanishtowns and muslimtowns if there's no support system and just the law and the market

2018-06-11 22:50:40 UTC  

open borders?

2018-06-11 22:50:44 UTC  

Yes

2018-06-11 22:50:46 UTC  

no

2018-06-11 22:50:48 UTC  

As it was in the early 1900s

2018-06-11 22:51:07 UTC  

Open Borders defeats the purpose of being a sovereign nation

2018-06-11 22:51:26 UTC  

ok, can you break down your reasoning please

2018-06-11 22:51:46 UTC  

the way I see it immigrants can fulfill an economic need especially when a country isn't replacing itself fast enough (US) and balance out demographic issues that lead to not enough workforce

2018-06-11 22:51:58 UTC  

the problem is when they have opposing values or don't work

2018-06-11 22:52:08 UTC  

Well

2018-06-11 22:52:29 UTC  

White people are set to lose their majority in the US if the current immigration trends continue

2018-06-11 22:52:44 UTC  

and?

2018-06-11 22:52:47 UTC  

Immigrants drag the economy down and take jobs from white people

2018-06-11 22:52:57 UTC  

yes but WHY do they drag the economy down?

2018-06-11 22:52:59 UTC  

immigrants don't drag the economy down

2018-06-11 22:53:06 UTC  

what if they didn't get welfare and tax money

2018-06-11 22:53:07 UTC  

that's not what the evidence says

2018-06-11 22:53:11 UTC  

and they had to contribute, leave, or die

2018-06-11 22:53:12 UTC  

most of the immigrants into this country do not share our values and have no desire to assimilate

2018-06-11 22:53:14 UTC  

just like anyone who lives here

2018-06-11 22:53:34 UTC  

and if the economy grows there's more jobs for everyone

2018-06-11 22:54:08 UTC  

yes but how is the economy going to grow when the market will just be oversaturated with low skilled workers

2018-06-11 22:54:19 UTC  

The only people dragging the economy down are the people who create less dollars in the economy than their life takes away.

2018-06-11 22:54:24 UTC  

it makes the country asa whole less safe

2018-06-11 22:54:55 UTC  

immigrants don't have to be low-skilled

2018-06-11 22:54:57 UTC  

No the people dragging the country down are a) black people and b) the immigrants who were allowed in here bc of muh diversity

2018-06-11 22:55:02 UTC  

oh open borders nvm

2018-06-11 22:55:33 UTC  

I'm not convinced open borders is right

2018-06-11 22:55:40 UTC  

it will never be

2018-06-11 22:55:54 UTC  

but i am pretty convinced that anyone who matches the country's language, values, and works is a positive

2018-06-11 22:56:01 UTC  

"black people" being a problem is due to welfare state.

2018-06-11 22:56:06 UTC  

Look at the timing of the black family being crushed.

2018-06-11 22:56:06 UTC  

no

2018-06-11 22:56:08 UTC  

It's when welfare state came in.

2018-06-11 22:56:17 UTC  

Yes. You should watch some Thomas Sowell from the 70s. He says the same thing.

2018-06-11 22:56:22 UTC  

Right when the black family started to break statistically