Message from @Logicpoints

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2018-06-11 19:40:03 UTC  

You shouldn't bring ppl in without a plan for them

2018-06-11 19:40:54 UTC  

If bringing them in means they arent able to work and find lawful means of supporting themselves then they shouldnt be there

2018-06-11 19:41:34 UTC  

If they follow a law that is contrary to yours like sharia law you cant have it

2018-06-11 22:48:11 UTC  

This is why I brought up open borders plus zero welfare state

2018-06-11 22:48:19 UTC  

immigrants can come in but there is no support system for them

2018-06-11 22:48:31 UTC  

Then supply and demand dictates how many immigrants want to come in

2018-06-11 22:48:46 UTC  

And immigrants have to speak the language and adopt the basic values of the land to make it (keep a job)

2018-06-11 22:49:08 UTC  

It seems like the market can just regulate how many workers are in it, right?

2018-06-11 22:49:22 UTC  

And those who come in and can't support themselves, well, they will have to leave or be homeless. Reality is harsh.

2018-06-11 22:49:27 UTC  

oh what's up @Lotus Calme

2018-06-11 22:49:29 UTC  

ah yes the free market solves all problems

2018-06-11 22:49:38 UTC  

eh

2018-06-11 22:49:51 UTC  

what do you guys think of the theory

2018-06-11 22:50:00 UTC  

I see how it makes people work but I don't necessarily see how it forces people to learn english and adopt western values

2018-06-11 22:50:40 UTC  

But maybe that isn't necessary, maybe it's ok to have chinatowns and spanishtowns and muslimtowns if there's no support system and just the law and the market

2018-06-11 22:50:40 UTC  

open borders?

2018-06-11 22:50:44 UTC  

Yes

2018-06-11 22:50:46 UTC  

no

2018-06-11 22:50:48 UTC  

As it was in the early 1900s

2018-06-11 22:51:07 UTC  

Open Borders defeats the purpose of being a sovereign nation

2018-06-11 22:51:26 UTC  

ok, can you break down your reasoning please

2018-06-11 22:51:46 UTC  

the way I see it immigrants can fulfill an economic need especially when a country isn't replacing itself fast enough (US) and balance out demographic issues that lead to not enough workforce

2018-06-11 22:51:58 UTC  

the problem is when they have opposing values or don't work

2018-06-11 22:52:08 UTC  

Well

2018-06-11 22:52:29 UTC  

White people are set to lose their majority in the US if the current immigration trends continue

2018-06-11 22:52:44 UTC  

and?

2018-06-11 22:52:47 UTC  

Immigrants drag the economy down and take jobs from white people

2018-06-11 22:52:57 UTC  

yes but WHY do they drag the economy down?

2018-06-11 22:52:59 UTC  

immigrants don't drag the economy down

2018-06-11 22:53:06 UTC  

what if they didn't get welfare and tax money

2018-06-11 22:53:07 UTC  

that's not what the evidence says

2018-06-11 22:53:11 UTC  

and they had to contribute, leave, or die

2018-06-11 22:53:12 UTC  

most of the immigrants into this country do not share our values and have no desire to assimilate

2018-06-11 22:53:14 UTC  

just like anyone who lives here

2018-06-11 22:53:34 UTC  

and if the economy grows there's more jobs for everyone

2018-06-11 22:54:08 UTC  

yes but how is the economy going to grow when the market will just be oversaturated with low skilled workers

2018-06-11 22:54:19 UTC  

The only people dragging the economy down are the people who create less dollars in the economy than their life takes away.

2018-06-11 22:54:24 UTC  

it makes the country asa whole less safe

2018-06-11 22:54:55 UTC  

immigrants don't have to be low-skilled

2018-06-11 22:54:57 UTC  

No the people dragging the country down are a) black people and b) the immigrants who were allowed in here bc of muh diversity

2018-06-11 22:55:02 UTC  

oh open borders nvm