Message from @NullJager

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2018-06-19 11:25:35 UTC  

The EU will fall. It’s problem is trying to make everyone and everything the same. The various cultures and people of Europe still have separate identities and visions of an ideal future. They will attempt to be more forceful as their unity crumbles, but in the end, the center will not hold. Europeans will be free again. One day.

2018-06-19 13:00:13 UTC  

@Alex D_rizzle seems to not have noticed that Italy put together a government and that most governments in Europe take a while to form unless their is a solid majority power broker who holds all the cards and can deal with some of the smaller parties.
Voted pro-Brexit, and proudly get called a racist for it. Because it's fucking comical to hear people think that leaving a political union is racism, then see the same people turn round and support Catalonia's attempt at leaving Spain.

2018-06-19 13:03:36 UTC  

@NullJager my bad, it did take quite a while for the Italian government to form though.

2018-06-19 13:16:59 UTC  

Yeah, it takes quite a while for a few governments to form in Europe.

2018-06-19 13:18:06 UTC  

And anyway, the EU is a dead man walking.

A lot of people seem to be wising up to the fact that this time Germany didn't invade. They just have a receipt.

2018-06-19 14:38:35 UTC  

I think the EU will last at least another 5-10 years if not much more @NullJager

2018-06-19 14:39:54 UTC  

5-10 years in the history of a nation and politics is not long at all.

2018-06-19 14:40:49 UTC  

I suspect it may be more like another 20 years

2018-06-19 14:41:03 UTC  

Right now there is no other alternative

2018-06-19 14:41:13 UTC  

There is, independence.

2018-06-19 14:50:26 UTC  

That means diminshed relevance in the global political economy

2018-06-19 14:50:31 UTC  

It's just not viable

2018-06-19 14:50:36 UTC  

And I hate the EU

2018-06-19 14:50:52 UTC  

Their relevance is already diminished by the EU.

2018-06-19 14:51:04 UTC  

I am speaking of the relevance of Europe

2018-06-19 14:51:14 UTC  

As a bloq the continent has more power

2018-06-19 14:51:37 UTC  

This is a political fact

2018-06-19 14:52:06 UTC  

I do agree that the member States should have greater power and I want greater sovereignty

2018-06-19 14:52:23 UTC  

But I think the EU just needs to reform, not dissolve.

2018-06-19 14:52:57 UTC  

Reformation of such an organisation will not work unless it is changed completely, beyond recognition.

2018-06-19 14:54:44 UTC  

And any reformation that is led by the EU, not the nations, will be towards federalisation. Which, if done correctly, where the nations are all left to their own devices and laws as the US was envisioned then it may work.

2018-06-19 14:55:00 UTC  

But, independence of the nations is still better than that in my eyes

2018-06-19 14:57:05 UTC  

From the eyes of a global politics student, I just know for a fact that despite my best wishes for Euro indepedence. The EU is currently the best thing the continent has going.

2018-06-20 00:44:05 UTC  

It is unavoidable because the people have turned against globalism. First England then Italy.

2018-06-20 21:45:43 UTC  

@Alex D_rizzle why do you think the EU is the best thing going on right now?

2018-06-20 21:46:39 UTC  

Name a feasible alternative that will maintain the remaining amount of clout has in global politics

2018-06-20 21:48:30 UTC  

Is the clout worth it? I’m skeptical. The price is too high.

2018-06-20 22:32:49 UTC  

What clout

2018-06-20 22:33:17 UTC  

They treat america unfairly

2018-06-20 22:33:45 UTC  

I think that if we want to avoid wars we should have fair trade not free trade

2018-06-20 22:54:16 UTC  

@everyone 🔖 __**Daily Question**__

- What is the best way to reintegrate criminals into society?

2018-06-20 22:54:57 UTC  

a bullet

2018-06-20 22:55:03 UTC  

Hire more teachers and social workers for prisons and people who refuse help should be executed

2018-06-20 22:55:11 UTC  

~~Integrate bullets into their skulls~~

2018-06-20 22:55:14 UTC  

this

2018-06-20 23:42:05 UTC  

^

2018-06-20 23:42:57 UTC  

if their crime can not be repaid through labor, or they have repeatedly committed crimes

2018-06-20 23:43:01 UTC  

just kill or deport them

2018-06-20 23:43:13 UTC  

anything to rid our society of them

2018-06-21 00:33:29 UTC  

Which type of criminals? There's a strong distinction between "violently dangerous to society" and "barely dangerous to society".

2018-06-21 00:33:35 UTC  

Even between white collar and blue collar crime.