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2018-07-31 15:46:03 UTC  

Collective

2018-07-31 15:46:03 UTC  

Individual

2018-07-31 15:46:06 UTC  

collective

2018-07-31 15:46:06 UTC  

pursuing the interests of the collective seems to outweigh

2018-07-31 15:46:16 UTC  

but individual rights can act as a prerequisite to taht

2018-07-31 15:46:17 UTC  

Individual

2018-07-31 15:46:35 UTC  

Collective

2018-07-31 15:47:24 UTC  

It depends but more collective

2018-07-31 15:50:26 UTC  

I think collectivizing is necessary

2018-07-31 15:51:08 UTC  

It's not

2018-07-31 15:51:23 UTC  

Individualists are collectivists in their own right, one could argue

2018-07-31 15:51:31 UTC  

Collectivist in thought

2018-07-31 15:51:36 UTC  

Just not in ethnicity

2018-07-31 15:52:28 UTC  

You do not represent all of the millions of other whites for example, nor do they represent you

2018-07-31 15:52:52 UTC  

huwhite powah

2018-07-31 15:52:52 UTC  

Define 'represent,' because I don't claim that I do

2018-07-31 15:56:45 UTC  

Collective

2018-07-31 15:59:09 UTC  

individualist

2018-07-31 16:01:56 UTC  

@anonymous anonymous Depends on what, exactly?

2018-07-31 16:06:34 UTC  

if he can get some ebony

2018-07-31 16:07:18 UTC  

@Deleted User Well individual rights are a nice ideal but can be damaging, like a drug attic can say its my right to do that drug. Yes it is but that can affect other people there for it should be illegal. Because the damage ought weights the freedom.

2018-07-31 16:09:44 UTC  

But you could say the same about guns. But the right to defend ones self out weights the damage firearms make.

2018-07-31 17:08:17 UTC  

Individuals

2018-07-31 17:08:24 UTC  

Free speech

2018-07-31 17:08:28 UTC  

Wooh

2018-07-31 17:22:09 UTC  

whats that thing in your avi

2018-07-31 19:07:51 UTC  

ensuring the rights of the individual

2018-08-01 02:50:44 UTC  

Collective

2018-08-01 14:23:14 UTC  

It's rather self-evident that the interests of the collective should be prioritized over that of the individual. The near-extinction of smallpox, polio, etc from the general public were collective population-wide efforts that ended more human misery than any single advance in individual political rights ever has. Likewise one of the largest sources of misery in the public today is found in the unchecked consumption of processed foods and the resulting degradation of body, mind, and spirit- the only plausible solution to which involves collective efforts in constraining individuals. If individual rights are important at all they are only important as political tools toward collective ends, particularly as barriers towards the majority appropriating the resources of or otherwise arbitrarily oppressing the minority in ways that ultimately harm the collective.

2018-08-01 14:27:23 UTC  

It's also quite evident that almost every single society on the planet, even those who are supposedly committed to individual rights, is willing to jettison individual rights as seen necessary when push comes to shove during wartime in order to protect the continued existence of the collective.

2018-08-01 14:38:23 UTC  

Outside of a few fanatics very few people actually support individual rights in principle as terminal goods ('God Given', 'Liberty or Death' types) because doing so is fairly stupid. More often people uphold them either because they're foundational to the social order (ex: constitutional rights), because they broadly benefit them personally now and for the foreseeable future (see: the partisan shift on free speech in the past 30 years), or because they believe they are ultimately beneficial to the collective interests of their society and/or humanity (ex: justifying gun rights because it keeps the people from being shuttled into concentration camps by a tyrant).

2018-08-01 18:01:14 UTC  

@everyone 🔖 Daily Question

Do you believe that it is better for private companies to be in possession of your country's natural resources, or should they be in the hands of the state? Explain your reasoning.

2018-08-01 18:01:21 UTC  

2018-08-01 18:02:08 UTC  

that's a question with a lot of hypotheticals.

2018-08-01 18:02:11 UTC  

Hi

2018-08-01 18:02:11 UTC  

The State, they have to atleast pretend like they care about the integrity of the Nation and not destroy everything for shekels.

2018-08-01 18:02:19 UTC  

They should be in the hands of whomever gets them /shrug

2018-08-01 18:02:23 UTC  

INDIVIDUAL

2018-08-01 18:02:29 UTC  

commie

2018-08-01 18:02:32 UTC  

COLLECTIVE

2018-08-01 18:02:38 UTC  

commie