Message from @The Real Head Honcho

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2018-08-05 23:47:21 UTC  

capitalism with lots of regulations but no unnecessary state owned businesses

2018-08-06 16:38:55 UTC  

2018-08-06 17:12:17 UTC  

I don't like the idea of absolute free markets

2018-08-06 17:12:49 UTC  

I think that leads to mindless consumerism, and I think the average person is too stupid to look out for companies with bad intentions

2018-08-06 18:32:16 UTC  

^

2018-08-06 18:34:42 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Is non-defensive military action/intervention ever justified? If so, under what circumstances?

2018-08-06 18:35:11 UTC  

No

2018-08-06 18:35:12 UTC  

Yes, anytime the USA sees it as fit.

2018-08-06 18:35:14 UTC  

Never

2018-08-06 18:35:29 UTC  

Possibly when genocide is taking place

2018-08-06 18:35:32 UTC  

INDIVIDUAL

2018-08-06 18:35:37 UTC  

Debatable at that case

2018-08-06 18:35:44 UTC  

@Froce is that all you say?

2018-08-06 18:35:45 UTC  

Uh

2018-08-06 18:35:46 UTC  

Yes, whenever the nation's interests are threatened

2018-08-06 18:36:09 UTC  

No no no

2018-08-06 18:36:27 UTC  

Absolutely. Human history is determined by the most powerful overcoming their weaker adversaries, and the fact that modern civilization does not do this is simply a temporary phenomenon. War is inevitable, as it is impossible not to threaten a nation's values at all indefinitely. This, and economic or political aggression by another country, when taken to the extreme, is potential for a retaliation

2018-08-06 18:36:49 UTC  

Offensive war can not be justified unless your allies are being assaulted unjustly

2018-08-06 18:36:56 UTC  

yes, it can

2018-08-06 18:37:01 UTC  

it can

2018-08-06 18:37:41 UTC  

lets say that a region occupied by one nation contains over 90% of your nation's citizens by nationality, and they are potentially being mistreated because of it

2018-08-06 18:37:51 UTC  

the nation becomes hostile when asked to remedy the situation

2018-08-06 18:38:04 UTC  

therefore a justification to claim that region by whatever means is justified

2018-08-06 18:39:29 UTC  

That just makes you a psychopath

2018-08-06 18:39:38 UTC  

you see, it is quite easy to tell when your neighbors, or anyone, is acting aggressive, whther it is to scare you or to literally invade you, armed conflict immidealty becomes an option. For example when Arab arms mobilized on Israel's borders in 1967 the Israeli's decided to make the first strike and bomb Egypts airforce bases to demobilize its airforce and get immideate air superiority, was it a dick move? yes but it kept it alive and that's all that matters.

2018-08-06 18:40:44 UTC  

hopefully my argument makes sense

2018-08-06 18:45:13 UTC  

I reject just war theory, so a nation can engage in military action for any reason under any circumstances

2018-08-06 18:50:07 UTC  

What if I told you that every time muhammad went to war it is always in response to enemy aggression?

2018-08-06 19:01:54 UTC  

I don’t think it is. I don’t think the well being of other peoples are necessarily our responsibility, but I doubt the long term benefits of military intervention.

2018-08-06 20:29:25 UTC  

It is **always** justified

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2018-08-06 20:52:14 UTC  

2018-08-06 21:33:48 UTC  

AVE ROMA

2018-08-06 21:34:29 UTC  

i don't see how it's inherently bad

2018-08-06 21:35:05 UTC  

but people often tell me the irish during the latter half of the 20th century were somehow wrong for picking up the rifles to defend themselves

2018-08-06 21:35:07 UTC  

so you know

2018-08-06 21:35:11 UTC  

double standards

2018-08-06 21:52:06 UTC  

even tho it's sad to see human beings and their creations destroyed,war is always going to be there as long as nations have specific interests,which is almost inevitable

2018-08-06 22:00:38 UTC  

so I'd be in favor of countries fighting for their best interestes since going against it is beating one's head against the wall :T

2018-08-07 01:35:07 UTC  

Isolationism is what you need @Pino Sinatra

2018-08-07 01:40:02 UTC  

yeah,but how long will it last until the first asshole violates that principle and starts eating up other nations till it becomes too powerful to be stopped?

2018-08-07 02:36:20 UTC  

Isolationism dosent imply a weak army