what's so bad about that tho?

its insane they need help if they are that ill and ashamed of themselves they need help why do you think they kill themselves.

i got one trans dude to become proud of being a male

hes no longer trans

i think its just a symptom of depression

no the depression comes from the societal stigma and pressure

Transgenderism is a disorder. They need medical help, not sympathy

no i mean theres some people who are depressed and look for deeper meaning and feel that they are wrong physically

being trans is a result of them feeling they are wrong physically

no its the result of having a brain more like the gender opposite to the one you were born as

conversion therapy doesn't work

so whats wrong with being agirly guy

just tell em they are a girly guy and thats that

that's different

associating gender with mentality is stupid

Many who transition realize it was a mistake and didn't actually solve their mental issue

Gay black Nazis vs 6'4" blonde objectivists who wins?

woke transgenderism is actually sexist

yeah cause they still face stigma

gender transition can't solve problems transgender people face

No, regardless of their acceptance they are still suicidal

^

even in societies where they are accepting

It is an issue of messed up biology. It is a medical problem.

This is true

Even in the most accepting countries

the suicide rate is still extremely high

The Netherlands, for example

we need to offer medical assistance

and tell them they dont know what a girl is

Why would stigma cause suicide rates at high as 40%? Can you name a single other example of something like this that isn't a result of mental illness also?

also we need to turn suicidal people into egoists

Bullying doesn't even lead to anywhere near as high as 40% suicide rate

yeah looks like it's also mental health shit

it's a 40% attempt rate

but still

When we talk about it as a mental illness we're ignoring the vast majority of people who are homosexual/adopting it as a fad, and who later regret it or move on.

but conversion therapy doesn't work so being accepting is the most helpful ting

im bullied and harassed for being t mutt im not suicidal

An extremely small minority of the population actually has gender dysphoria.

people should get over themselves