Message from @campodin
Discord ID: 485647436396625931
Business is just an extension of a group or individual. To limit businesses ability to act is an infringement on people's rights and punishing them for the wrong kind of freedom of association
@Milk apologies, I didn’t know
No, eat the rich.
For the question about positve rights, yes but i wouldn't term them positive rights i would just term them services, and really i would rather the state contract private agencies to fulfill those services as i believe they would do them better. As for big business, we need to de-democratize central government so that politicians don't need corporate money, or any money for that matter since elections won't be that big a deal, only local democracies can work because the people can organize on a much more easy and pragmatic order to hold politicians accountable for their corruption.
democracy should be crushed by the might of the khan and the wealth of the companies plundered
@campodin what about businesses like google, Apple, and Microsoft, They may founded in America but have significant influence from other nations, specifically Eastern Asia
I’m with @J E S S E
no the government should influence corporations
anyone who outsources our jobs gets their families taken away
Corporations should not influence the government
big business shouldn't be able to influence democratically elected politicians in any way imo
@Doctor Anon I would say international corporations shouldnt
but you cant just be like "send that bakery owner to prison for having a pro trump poster on his property"
@L0GAN businesses can have political associations, but not ones vital to the people like water, electrical, and major social media platforms, just not *influence*
Oh i completely agree with that
Private property needs to be rethinked with the invention of social media and the internet
The best way to not have business become large is by no longer supporting them. By not supporting them, they won't grow big and will most likely close down. Support the ones you think would be best for the future, instead of supporting a multi-media dollar corporation. But again, how would you do that when all of the business have already been successful back then as it is now? That's my answer to the question.
@Matthew John (aka Coastermaker) problem is you'd need a very large group of people to make q difference now
Like for YouTube, there probably won't be any actual competition for a while, it's a monopoly
That is why I mentioned in the last part is "How would you do it if the company is already successfu back then as it is now?" There you go.
@Doctor Anon or the support of sjws...
It's a tool for trade wars
Can't let China win so it is necessary
Too much involvement from the state - interferes with the free market
Yes but what if China wins
We can't let China win
Then they win fair and square through the free market. Such is the nature of the free market
If China wins everybody loses
There's no free market in China
There's a market with a lot of government control
Correct, but China still competes in the free market globally
It does means state interference, but i'm happy to allow the state some power if it doesn't involve China winnning
Either the US market wins with moderate government intervention, or the chinese one wins with massive government intervention
I'm libertarian until I remember that China exists
The problem is that the chinese government subsidises everything remotly important that can be sold on the world stage.
And Protectionism is needed to stop China from controlling all the trade.
Protectionism is important depending on the market. If you are a huge producer of good quality goods and you don’t have a trade deficit, then be free market. If you have a huge trade deficit and no one buys your goods, then use protectionism
In my yet to be molded opinion, Protectionism is a good thing. However, I don't really know anything about the matter.
Protectionism is bad economic policy. However, it is a useful political tool to punish and bully other nations into submission.
^