Yes, 100% yes. We need those renewable resources at the base of industry and you need to protect them to have them. Also if the environment is fucked we are all fucked. Also I’m biased because I plan on working in national parks and I would live in the forest if I could.

The development of industry needs to come to the point where we can colonize other planets and have a decentralized ecosystem to prevent extinctions and loss of nature

Then conservation and industry can co-exist

@Leaf Supremacist truth

yes, cause otherwise we'l all die

if we ignore the environment completely then the planet will be dead and nobody will be able to live there anymore

The environment is about doomed as we knew it when we were younger. The toxins we pumped into the air for generations are eating away at our only defense against radiation from cosmic sources.

The rate at which O3 replenishes is vastly outdone by the rate at which we destroy it.

So things will continue on the current track until we can alleviate that issue, or at least slow it down to where we no longer have a loss of O3 in the upper atmosphere.

Unfortunately that is a long ways off as we won't stop using cars.

This is literally a hole in the Ozone.

people have been talking about it for years

and the Earth seems fine

It's not not an argument just an observation

These clouds just recently started appearing.

These are new.

Not the old.

Interesting

How did the ocean "rise"?

These are a recent development, and the ozone has actually been reduced.

And the planet is fine with ozone depletion, we are not.

lmao just because the earth ‘seems fine’ to you doesn’t mean it is

And the ocean can rise, as water expands when it is warmed, the water below the surface is quite cold, so if it starts to warm up there is the possibility of some rising. Also, Antarctica is not a solid chunk of ice, it is an actual continent as compared to the Arctic which is mostly a hunk of ice.

lmao just because the earth ‘seems fine’ to you doesn’t mean it is

I literally said I wasn't making an argument

@ham addition dumbass

If you put ice in a cup and melt it

It won't rise the water level

but it will though

if i have a glass of water with ice in and just leave it out for a while it’ll get higher as the ice melts

how

it’s not like a conspiracy or anything

you could like

do it yourself

science

it depends how much of the ice is floating above the water

and what the water/ice ratio is

but yes undoubtedly if the ice caps melted sea level would be significantly higher

No, if you put the ice in a cup that is full it will displace the water.

So yes, it does rise.

And again, the ice caps of Antarctica are not in the ocean, they are above it.