Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿

Discord ID: 487018702294876171


2018-09-05 21:41:48 UTC  

It doesn't apply to a glass of water though

2018-09-05 21:42:57 UTC  

when ice melts *in* water then the water level stays the same
~~I think~~

2018-09-05 21:43:01 UTC  

No

2018-09-05 21:43:12 UTC  

That's of the ice is *in* the water.

2018-09-05 21:43:46 UTC  

If you have a glass that is full and add ice the water is displaced until it equalizes.

2018-09-05 21:44:00 UTC  

So it would over flow.

2018-09-05 21:44:04 UTC  

Again, try it.

2018-09-05 21:44:14 UTC  

Take a glass, fill it, then put your ice in.

2018-09-05 21:44:42 UTC  

The water level will rise without a shadow of a doubt.

2018-09-05 21:45:14 UTC  

And the ice of Antarctica is mostly above the water.

2018-09-05 21:45:40 UTC  

It's like the full glass that you shove ice cubes into.

2018-09-05 21:51:02 UTC  

Of course none of us really know anything and can't fathom the depths of the knowledge we acquire, and ultimately it could turn out that God had absolute control the entire time and all we did was equal to nil.

2018-09-05 21:51:52 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-05 21:52:00 UTC  

I said I knew what you were saying

2018-09-05 21:54:42 UTC  

But yes, you're right. If all the ice was actually in the water, and not above it likely wouldn't have much of an impact on sea levels, just the temperature.

2018-09-05 21:54:46 UTC  

I confused what you said with what someone else said and I assumed something

2018-09-05 21:55:21 UTC  

But that's assuming the ice is of regular density at 1 atmosphere of pressure.

2018-09-05 21:56:28 UTC  

Nerd

2018-09-05 21:56:53 UTC  

What's the language in your name and what does it mean

2018-09-05 21:57:33 UTC  

Japanese, it means Curse Lord.

2018-09-05 21:58:26 UTC  

Noroi Dono

2018-09-05 23:19:27 UTC  

I mean

2018-09-05 23:19:30 UTC  

even ignoring global warming

2018-09-05 23:19:43 UTC  

there's still plenty of other reasons to actually care about the environment

2018-09-05 23:19:56 UTC  

We're using resources unsustainable fast, many of which are nonrenewable

2018-09-05 23:20:16 UTC  

also, ice sheets and rising sea levels be damned, smog and other forms of pollution are pretty unhealthy

2018-09-05 23:30:50 UTC  

mass <:unequal:473954748517842954> volume

2018-09-05 23:31:12 UTC  

volume is the issue when it comes to rising sea levels

2018-09-05 23:31:30 UTC  

wait nvm that's not relevant

2018-09-05 23:46:34 UTC  

This is a decision that should be entirely left up to local communities. One can focus on industry, while another on conservation. Let the people decide which is the better place to live for there needs and interests

2018-09-05 23:50:06 UTC  

But if one local community makes too big of an impact it ruins it for others @campodin

2018-09-05 23:50:30 UTC  

The whole “ you have the freedom to swing your fist so long as it doesn’t hit my nose”

2018-09-05 23:54:17 UTC  

It takes more than one local community to "ruin it for others" unless they are just dumping toxins in the water supply or the like. But that goes beyond developing industry. Not causing harm to others is not the same as conservation

2018-09-06 00:03:19 UTC  

So then it shouldn't be up to the local community?

2018-09-06 00:04:14 UTC  

Because who decides what is and is not right when the community that has decided this is fine and it works for them, but the other community is disproportionately affected by that choice?

2018-09-06 00:04:47 UTC  

It's far easier to dump toxins than to clean them.

2018-09-06 00:23:17 UTC  

The question was on industry vs conservation. That is what I was addressing. Not allowing someone to dump toxins in the drinking water is not the same as conservation.

2018-09-06 00:25:53 UTC  

Conservation is trying to preserve the state of nature, and maintain a healthy amount of biodiversity in your environment. Disallowing actions like dumping toxic waste is for the purpose of preserving human life and health.

2018-09-06 00:26:46 UTC  

erm not nessecarily

2018-09-06 00:26:48 UTC  

One local community alone cannot ruin conservation efforts

2018-09-06 00:28:22 UTC  

No? So say a community decides to build a dam