Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿

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2018-09-06 00:43:23 UTC  

as a whole

2018-09-06 00:43:28 UTC  

RABBIT TRAIL @Milk

2018-09-06 00:43:31 UTC  

neither of which has to do with the democratic system

2018-09-06 00:44:30 UTC  

The federal government is reflective of democracy though.

2018-09-06 00:44:43 UTC  

Somehwat

2018-09-06 00:44:48 UTC  

Somewhat

2018-09-06 00:45:12 UTC  

iirc federal gun laws are unconstitutional

2018-09-06 00:45:17 UTC  

yet we have them

2018-09-06 00:45:34 UTC  

You're distracting.

2018-09-06 00:45:37 UTC  

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what I was trying to get at, was that every one of these examples you give of industrial development hurting communities I can almost guarantee it wasn't made at the local level.

2018-09-06 00:45:39 UTC  

From the QotD.

2018-09-06 00:46:06 UTC  

You say these decisions *should* be handled at the local level though.

2018-09-06 00:46:06 UTC  

If we pay attention to historical context of the 1st Amendment you could make an unconvincing argument that any gun law is unconstitutional. But laws restricting certain weapons are in theory not unreasonable.

2018-09-06 00:46:26 UTC  

This has nothing to do with today's QOTD

2018-09-06 00:46:26 UTC  

And that they should have the authority to do these sorts of projects.

2018-09-06 00:46:39 UTC  

Yes, Zexy

2018-09-06 00:46:49 UTC  

I would prefer if it was completely left to states

2018-09-06 00:47:08 UTC  

But some effects are unforeseeable, so I was asking what would happen?

2018-09-06 00:47:29 UTC  

If one community made a decision that affected several others?

2018-09-06 00:49:46 UTC  

If they can show that damages have taken place, they can sue them or settle some arrangement where the damages are fixed or paid for.

2018-09-06 00:51:00 UTC  

Who enforces that?

2018-09-06 00:51:19 UTC  

And who decides what a forest is worth?

2018-09-06 00:51:54 UTC  

Either a court or a private arbitrator of some kind

2018-09-06 00:51:58 UTC  

How do you gauge how much damage there is from losing a forest which provides food and resources for several communities?

2018-09-06 00:52:20 UTC  

A single tree can be considered priceless

2018-09-06 00:52:30 UTC  

And money will never bring those resources back

2018-09-06 00:52:31 UTC  

So

2018-09-06 00:52:44 UTC  

How do you mitigate this when money isn't enough?

2018-09-06 00:52:47 UTC  

This is why you could make a settlement where the other community provides the lost food source

2018-09-06 00:53:08 UTC  

So you would have a community starve its people?

2018-09-06 00:53:35 UTC  

What?

2018-09-06 00:54:06 UTC  

An industrial community isn't going to have much food

2018-09-06 00:54:20 UTC  

If that community didn't have enough for both, would you have one go hungry?

2018-09-06 00:55:05 UTC  

An "industrial community" as you are imagining it wouldn't choose to damage it's own food source.

2018-09-06 00:55:18 UTC  

It's not the food source to them

2018-09-06 00:55:26 UTC  

It's a good source for the others.

2018-09-06 00:55:27 UTC  

However, you can have food industry

2018-09-06 00:56:01 UTC  

That would be an agricultural community

2018-09-06 00:56:23 UTC  

I'm just asking how an issue like that would be solved under such a system.

2018-09-06 00:56:34 UTC  

No, I'm taking about industrialized farming

2018-09-06 00:56:35 UTC  

When money isn't enough.