Message from @SilverLining

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2018-09-08 18:02:26 UTC  
2018-09-08 18:17:41 UTC  

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2018-09-08 19:00:19 UTC  

Its important to note that in Ukraine the conflict has bled both sides extremely, however Kiev is on the genocide path bombing and regularly killing civilians as was the govorments supporters goal from day one (Odessa massacre) and the war started not with a declaration of war, but with strafing runs on civilians of which there are videos which I recommend anyone watch.

The war however has attracted a lot of mercanaries, the US is arming Kiev ad it is reasonable to assume that it is supplying them with a steady stream of mercanaries. Donbas in need of well armed fighting men will accept anyone it can get, Kiev being national socialist, or rather supporting Banderism, has attracted such forces as the Azov battalion, and this has motivated legitimate antifa, or other communist militias and mercanaries to fight for free really. Giving Donbass much needed help. As such I support Donbass and the history of Ukraine puts it in a position that much of its modern land was not ethnically ukranian nor originally settled by ukrainians. As such I also support DOnbass in its right to secede and for Kiev to respect this right as they have a legitimate claim to this and I condemn their genocidal war. @Euro-American Bandit

I dont thin pan slavism is a good idea @Doctor Anon Its.... well.... a one way street to eradication of all slavic cultures and merging them into what would be russia. I like the idea of a Slavic brotherhood, or slavic Sojusz, based on militayr cooperation first and foremost and beyond that very broad and basic and clear rules. A list of 10 comandments so to speak (polish here 😄 ). I would recommend bringign back ancient slavonic or at least glagolictic as a formal second language and slavic dialogue which would be used in all buerocratic or international matters (also making trade simply easier). As well as elected representatives by the nation which can be removed at any moment should the vote reach a certain threshhold.

2018-09-08 19:00:36 UTC  

(why the fuck do i always write such massive walls of text, i need to learn to be conciese,)

2018-09-08 19:28:53 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir Pan Slavism wouldn't be Russia, it would work as a U.S would work, 2 senators from each country, and a main body proportioned to each population

2018-09-08 19:42:20 UTC  

@Doctor Anon I thought pan slavism mandated that essentially a slavic culture emerge or allowed for simply one sided domination, a guy did an interesting video on pan slavism and something else. However the system you speak of is something I agree with, beig that there must be equal and equally weighed representation as we are brother and sister nations and this makes us prone to bickering. However I would not support uniting it into a union or single political entity

2018-09-08 19:42:38 UTC  

(the guy is called slavic affairs and hes Serbian I think, and has some cool vids, music and all)

2018-09-08 19:48:32 UTC  

@Doctor Anon wherever have we seen a republic/federation containing russia and its surrounding nations...

2018-09-08 19:48:53 UTC  

*cough cough* ***Union of Soviet Socialist Republics***

2018-09-08 19:49:49 UTC  

Also Tsarist Russia

2018-09-08 19:50:04 UTC  

*are you retarded*

2018-09-08 19:50:12 UTC  

well, sans republic

2018-09-08 19:50:43 UTC  

Creating ethnic-based states is a garbage idea either way, though

2018-09-08 19:52:45 UTC  

Not really

2018-09-08 20:01:24 UTC  

eh

2018-09-08 20:01:26 UTC  

yeah really

2018-09-08 20:01:50 UTC  

especially in terms of broader ethnicities

2018-09-08 20:02:10 UTC  

like "Germanic" or "Slavic"

2018-09-08 20:22:13 UTC  

@SilverLining so your telling me states that have majority people of theyre states ethnicity are bad?

2018-09-08 20:22:38 UTC  

not bad, but I'm saying it's pointless to seek organization strictly upon ethnic lines

2018-09-08 20:22:50 UTC  

especially if it's non-existent right now

2018-09-08 20:22:53 UTC  

ehh i can kinda agree with that

2018-09-08 20:22:57 UTC  

I'd argue organization should be even more regional

2018-09-08 20:23:13 UTC  

but why shouldnt a state mantain its culture

2018-09-08 20:23:15 UTC  

For example, while the south may be "ethnically American", just like the north

2018-09-08 20:23:30 UTC  

I don't see why the north needs to remain tethered to the south

2018-09-08 20:23:31 UTC  

@SilverLining so almost like the uk

2018-09-08 20:23:43 UTC  

yeah... the UK needs to split up imo

2018-09-08 20:23:50 UTC  

theres different ethnicities within different sections

2018-09-08 20:24:06 UTC  

don't make "pan-[whatever]" empires

2018-09-08 20:24:11 UTC  

just divide as much as possible

2018-09-08 20:24:20 UTC  

and still even within england theirs massive accent differences

2018-09-08 20:24:47 UTC  

I mean, ideally, I'd want a system wherein each county/region/town has a large degree of autonomy

2018-09-08 20:24:58 UTC  

preferably completely democratic

2018-09-08 20:25:10 UTC  

problem with that

2018-09-08 20:25:16 UTC  

is laws would differ wildly

2018-09-08 20:25:16 UTC  

In a confederation, ofc

2018-09-08 20:25:32 UTC  

I think a constitution should be in place

2018-09-08 20:25:36 UTC  

as well

2018-09-08 20:25:41 UTC  

and it would be easy for a large group of people with a specific idealogy to all move to a specific town

2018-09-08 20:25:48 UTC  

to secure basic rights, at least within decent regions