That is why other nations were brought in

If I've got some cognitive dissonance you most certainly do too, by sticking up for those values

Except I didn't

anyhow

brb for like 30 seconds

You should quote me where I defended that

You argue like every other leftist, lol, even if you were not a leftist, you nonetheless think like one

The leftist has a black and white view of the world, and therefore, shape the image of their opponents into unrealistic caricatures.

which, ironically enough, results in the same happening to you

I mean, you proclaimed "Values is the incorrect term, the correct wording should be self pride", in a discussion of whether europeans should stick to their values or not

so there was most certainly at least implied, if not outright support, for europeans having pride

"They should be proud to be European"

is a far cry from "They should be proud that their ancestors kills and pillaged"

Total misrepresentation

Why should one be proud to be European?

You show no charity, I show you none

Our discussion, actually

Was about the tragedies committed by europeans

For the same reason a Chinaman should be proud of being Chinese

about how european power rests upon a throne of corpses

yes, I disagree with that

Well then I think you're wrong

I don't think Chinese people should pride themselves in their ethnicity.

They absolutely should

Why do you have that opinion?

Why?

Jews should to

Why should they be proud>

Why?

How about let me answer the question

Nah, I did the same thing to you earlier

you can

so it's okay

I'm not preventing you

I'll show the courtesy of not mocking your responses

by proclaiming 'muh nationalism' and 'muh skin color'

then dismissing them outright, or using whataboutisms to distract from the horrors which occurred

They should be proud of being who they are because self hatred leads to the same situation Europe is in now:

Total decadence, a lack of concern about the future, and outright hatred of your own which is replaced by a preference for foreigners who do not care about their nations as much as they will and will always see themselves as part of a different group except for some fringe cases @SilverLining

Jews should do this, too
Muslims should do this,

Everyone should do this

but yeah, if you can explain why a german should take pride in being "german", a vague notion which has meant countless things historically, then go ahead

A nation that does not respect itself will not last

>total decadence

how?