"Should I defend the german homeland, the german people, even though if I did so, I'd likely be persecuted after making my effort"

This is a bit irrelevant, but to you would actually probably be spared

The answer to that question determines the answer to yours

Hitler spared Jews and also let blacks fight in his army

*some Jews

But it's irrelevant

If morality is objective then your personal beliefs are irrelevant to what is right

The jews he spared were generally only used in administration roles in aiding the holocaust

Morality is subjective

I'm not interested in debating Hitler right now. It has nothing to do with principles

I do agree it's subjective, though

@The Big Oof intersting, then why on earth do you oppose Moth?

I'm merely questioning your morality

I can understand questioning the morality of others, even if it is subjective

If its subjective then the lesbian should follow her personal beliefs

Since to her this is moral and there's no objective morality

That's what would happen

not what should happen

Well, it's what should happen

imo

but

@Snakeisninja For one left wingers don't believe in moral relativism

Yes they do lol

They believe in a rebranded form of moral objectivism

They just call it something else

not really

They all view the world in black and white

It depends on the leftists

@Snakeisninja Marxists

In any case I am not a nihilist

Even though he's not a Marxist

Let's use that as a starting point

I am a Darwinian so to speak

"The history of the world is the history of class struggle"

Black and white thinking

you're presuming all leftists are marxists

"Even though he's not a Marxist
Let's use that as a starting point"

I am not @SilverLining

You're trying to paint all leftists as holding objective morals

Most do

then proceed to use a fringe example

razor I disagree with both of you not because you believe in objective morality, but because you don't 😎