Message from @The Big Oof

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2018-09-09 00:09:24 UTC  

eh, fine

2018-09-09 00:09:28 UTC  

just a lesbian german

2018-09-09 00:09:29 UTC  

there we go

2018-09-09 00:09:33 UTC  

Again the subject of debate has to be WHAT are the right principles

2018-09-09 00:09:34 UTC  

I wouldn't be killed, mind you

2018-09-09 00:09:35 UTC  

And why

2018-09-09 00:09:41 UTC  

Communists are inherently internationalist, aside from some fringe movements like National Bolshevism

2018-09-09 00:09:58 UTC  

Still, I'm asking in your set of beliefs

2018-09-09 00:09:59 UTC  

Even then

2018-09-09 00:10:01 UTC  

Should I?

2018-09-09 00:10:06 UTC  

Would it be the "right" thing to do?

2018-09-09 00:10:19 UTC  

Even though my nation directly violates all my personal beliefs

2018-09-09 00:10:37 UTC  

Is morality subjective

2018-09-09 00:10:47 UTC  

"Should I defend the german homeland, the german people, even though if I did so, I'd likely be persecuted after making my effort"

This is a bit irrelevant, but to you would actually probably be spared

2018-09-09 00:10:51 UTC  

The answer to that question determines the answer to yours

2018-09-09 00:10:58 UTC  

Hitler spared Jews and also let blacks fight in his army

2018-09-09 00:11:04 UTC  

*some Jews

2018-09-09 00:11:14 UTC  

But it's irrelevant

2018-09-09 00:11:19 UTC  

If morality is objective then your personal beliefs are irrelevant to what is right

2018-09-09 00:11:21 UTC  

The jews he spared were generally only used in administration roles in aiding the holocaust

2018-09-09 00:11:25 UTC  

Morality is subjective

2018-09-09 00:11:40 UTC  

I'm not interested in debating Hitler right now. It has nothing to do with principles

2018-09-09 00:11:51 UTC  

I do agree it's subjective, though

2018-09-09 00:11:59 UTC  

@The Big Oof intersting, then why on earth do you oppose Moth?

2018-09-09 00:12:03 UTC  

I'm merely questioning your morality

2018-09-09 00:12:13 UTC  

I can understand questioning the morality of others, even if it is subjective

2018-09-09 00:12:16 UTC  

If its subjective then the lesbian should follow her personal beliefs

2018-09-09 00:12:29 UTC  

Since to her this is moral and there's no objective morality

2018-09-09 00:12:37 UTC  

That's what would happen

2018-09-09 00:12:40 UTC  

not what should happen

2018-09-09 00:12:47 UTC  

Well, it's what should happen

2018-09-09 00:12:48 UTC  

imo

2018-09-09 00:12:50 UTC  

but

2018-09-09 00:12:58 UTC  

@Snakeisninja For one left wingers don't believe in moral relativism

2018-09-09 00:13:05 UTC  

Yes they do lol

2018-09-09 00:13:10 UTC  

They believe in a rebranded form of moral objectivism

2018-09-09 00:13:13 UTC  

They just call it something else

2018-09-09 00:13:19 UTC  

not really

2018-09-09 00:13:19 UTC  

They all view the world in black and white

2018-09-09 00:13:20 UTC  

It depends on the leftists

2018-09-09 00:13:28 UTC  

@Snakeisninja Marxists