Message from @The Big Oof

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2018-09-09 00:22:38 UTC  

I want you to complete your training and evolve 😉

2018-09-09 00:22:59 UTC  

I have a basic set of beliefs

2018-09-09 00:25:24 UTC  

So I will share my worldview with you.
An organism's purpose is survival.
Since all organisms die, no organism can survive indefinitely, but genes can
Organisms are vessels for genes, and thus an organism's ultimate purpose is to secure the survival of its genes.

2018-09-09 00:26:16 UTC  

This worldview enables me to determine how I should act in any given scenario, what I should do and what I should not do.

2018-09-09 00:27:03 UTC  

Peak materialism.

2018-09-09 00:27:05 UTC  

I don't like that

2018-09-09 00:27:12 UTC  

Should someone with down syndrome reproduce?

2018-09-09 00:27:46 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз I don't think you understand what materialism means

2018-09-09 00:27:54 UTC  

Irma has an extremely high IQ

2018-09-09 00:28:00 UTC  

No, I don't think that you do.

2018-09-09 00:28:01 UTC  

Just wait until you witness it

2018-09-09 00:28:06 UTC  

Materialism doesn't just mean "I like stuff".

2018-09-09 00:28:19 UTC  

You are reducing existence to the aspect of material reality.

2018-09-09 00:28:24 UTC  

Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.

2018-09-09 00:28:34 UTC  

That's exactly what you're doing.

2018-09-09 00:28:55 UTC  

So quite literally I am not a materialist according to this definition because I don't believe that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.

2018-09-09 00:29:22 UTC  

Believing that human existence is reduced to our impetus for reproduction is very much a materialist position.

2018-09-09 00:29:45 UTC  

No it isn't. I am a dualist. You don't understand materialism

2018-09-09 00:29:59 UTC  

Materialism is a broad philosophy and this is actually one of the most common viewpoints of materialists.

2018-09-09 00:30:12 UTC  

Again I literally don't believe that all things are reducible to matter

2018-09-09 00:30:24 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз It's one of the cornerstones of Levayan Satanism

2018-09-09 00:30:28 UTC  

But you are reducing our existence to perpetuation of genes.

2018-09-09 00:30:36 UTC  

That's materialist as fuck.

2018-09-09 00:30:36 UTC  

*laveyan

2018-09-09 00:30:39 UTC  

lol see I knew you didn't get it

2018-09-09 00:30:55 UTC  

you're conflating two things that aren't the same

2018-09-09 00:31:20 UTC  

You can either better explain your position or condescend from an ivory tower.

2018-09-09 00:31:26 UTC  

Materialism isn't a moral system

2018-09-09 00:31:28 UTC  

But everything you've said is materialist.

2018-09-09 00:31:41 UTC  

Do you know what the 3 views on matter and mind are

2018-09-09 00:31:48 UTC  

Moral systems can be based on utilitarian materialism, which is exactly what you're describing.

2018-09-09 00:32:19 UTC  

Everything we do is for the purpose of spreading our genes -> only what does this is considered moral

2018-09-09 00:32:24 UTC  

This is utilitarian materialism.

2018-09-09 00:33:10 UTC  

I have a correction to make:
Earlier I said "I am an idealist."
That was a mistake. I am not an idealist, I am a dualist.

2018-09-09 00:33:26 UTC  

That might be the source of the confusion.

2018-09-09 00:33:45 UTC  

You explained your position and I firmly believe it's materialist.

2018-09-09 00:33:52 UTC  

I'm not getting tied up in what you call yourself.

2018-09-09 00:34:11 UTC  

Do we agree that materialism is a term with a standard definition

2018-09-09 00:34:40 UTC  

You gave me the definition of materialism, which is a broad philosophy. I agree with the definition you gave, and firmly believe it applies here.

2018-09-09 00:34:47 UTC  

Okay, excellent.

2018-09-09 00:34:53 UTC  

You're reducing human existence to the material, aka, the spread of genes.