Message from @The Big Oof
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I want you to complete your training and evolve 😉
I have a basic set of beliefs
So I will share my worldview with you.
An organism's purpose is survival.
Since all organisms die, no organism can survive indefinitely, but genes can
Organisms are vessels for genes, and thus an organism's ultimate purpose is to secure the survival of its genes.
This worldview enables me to determine how I should act in any given scenario, what I should do and what I should not do.
Peak materialism.
I don't like that
Should someone with down syndrome reproduce?
@εïз irma εïз I don't think you understand what materialism means
Irma has an extremely high IQ
No, I don't think that you do.
Just wait until you witness it
Materialism doesn't just mean "I like stuff".
You are reducing existence to the aspect of material reality.
Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.
That's exactly what you're doing.
So quite literally I am not a materialist according to this definition because I don't believe that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.
Believing that human existence is reduced to our impetus for reproduction is very much a materialist position.
No it isn't. I am a dualist. You don't understand materialism
Materialism is a broad philosophy and this is actually one of the most common viewpoints of materialists.
Again I literally don't believe that all things are reducible to matter
But you are reducing our existence to perpetuation of genes.
That's materialist as fuck.
*laveyan
lol see I knew you didn't get it
you're conflating two things that aren't the same
You can either better explain your position or condescend from an ivory tower.
Materialism isn't a moral system
But everything you've said is materialist.
Do you know what the 3 views on matter and mind are
Moral systems can be based on utilitarian materialism, which is exactly what you're describing.
Everything we do is for the purpose of spreading our genes -> only what does this is considered moral
This is utilitarian materialism.
I have a correction to make:
Earlier I said "I am an idealist."
That was a mistake. I am not an idealist, I am a dualist.
That might be the source of the confusion.
You explained your position and I firmly believe it's materialist.
I'm not getting tied up in what you call yourself.
Do we agree that materialism is a term with a standard definition
You gave me the definition of materialism, which is a broad philosophy. I agree with the definition you gave, and firmly believe it applies here.
Okay, excellent.
You're reducing human existence to the material, aka, the spread of genes.