materialism posits that everything is reducible to matter so to speak
I do not believe that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.
I believe that matter is ONE fundamental substance in nature along with the imaterial

Aborting healthy babies is bad for obvious reasons

You should want your nation to have a large population

I you're still confused please reread my earlier posts.

Yes, you may not be a materialist. But your notion of morality is purely materialist. I don't know how these two ideas are at odds.

My notion of morality does NOT posit that everything is reducible to matter.

"You just don't understand me MOM" is not an argument.

***What is your moral system*** @εïз irma εïз

It could, to be fair, but it could just as easily not

maybe that should highlight the difference

@The Big Oof have you considered the health issues associated with the mother when she has an abortion?

Christian objectivism.

@εïз irma εïз Really? That's badass

I had no clue

Why are we fighting

@campodin Depends

Zexy and I will be bffs now

Depends on what?

Unrelated to Ayn Rand.

Darn I have to join vc on another server because I promised I would 😦

I would just say it's best to prevent people with down syndrome from existing

This has been a great discussion

Its a shame we couldn't get more into it but lets talk again

@The Big Oof why not just prevent them from reproducing?

Institutions have to be erected to care for them

Ayn Rand is based

Change my mind

Not really, many already exist, and parents do a lot of the caring for them themselves

You wouldn't need to change much atm

If you're a 17 y/o boy Ayn Rand is cool for two seconds.

As much as I hate to say it, even Karl Marx is a better philosopher than Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand should lead the new world order

Imo objectivist use of "selfishness" is disingenuous

karl marx wasnt a bad philosopher

he just didnt realise communism wasnt practical at all

In other words a bad philosopher

it wasnt not practical because it was bad

it was not practical because it was too utopian in the way he said it

like communism in his definition is extremely utopian and unsustainable

in other definitions where theres an actual government it causes famines and other humane crisis and then lasts as long as a normal gov anyways so its bad

Yeah but caloric intake and literacy skyrocketed under the Soviets.