Message from Porpoise in The Right Cafe #qotd


2018-12-26 23:11:11 UTC  

yes of course

2018-12-26 23:11:22 UTC  

I don't think anyone can deny this

2018-12-26 23:11:31 UTC  

no

2018-12-26 23:11:42 UTC  

But it's not the end all

2018-12-26 23:12:09 UTC  

While it should be a goal of a nation to improve itself, it shouldn't be at all costs.

2018-12-26 23:13:27 UTC  

i would say no, a nation should try to improve itself in a multitude of ways, but possibly least of these the economy. It should try to improve its culture. By this i mean it should build upon itself in the arts, the culinary arts, architecture, music, drama, etc. It should try to improve the connections within itself, cultural linkages if you will. By this I mean it should foster participation in the Church and community at large. Increasing participation to strengthen local, regional and national identity. This brings purpose to individuals within the nation.

While growing the economy certainly offers benefits, all too often it is hoisted far above the societal goals listed above, and if effort is not made then the economic goals will supercede these goals completely. In the long run the society will run out of creative energy and the individuals will become increasingly isolated, leading to a multitude of problems and the eventual collapse of economy, for the society is no longer dynamic.

2018-12-26 23:14:01 UTC  

Also take into consideration the means.

2018-12-26 23:14:02 UTC  

what the fuck did I just read

2018-12-26 23:14:18 UTC  

@IV LI V S <:brainlet:487682295889920016>

2018-12-26 23:14:23 UTC  

I guess so

2018-12-26 23:14:50 UTC  

but do you not know that economic growth is *the* driving force behind cultural advances

2018-12-26 23:14:51 UTC  

Merkel said that the influx of immigrants would bring economic growth.

2018-12-26 23:14:59 UTC  

its not, though

2018-12-26 23:15:10 UTC  

better things are made possible by bigger wealth

2018-12-26 23:15:15 UTC  

if it was, america would have a vibrant and growing culture, instead of a regressive and deteriorating one

2018-12-26 23:15:17 UTC  

this has always been the way

2018-12-26 23:15:30 UTC  

no that's a retarded reduction

2018-12-26 23:15:34 UTC  

not at all

2018-12-26 23:15:42 UTC  

I never said that big economy = good culture

2018-12-26 23:15:49 UTC  

if your claim holds, it should hold every time

2018-12-26 23:15:49 UTC  

I think you need to have expanded material possibilities for sure,
@IV LI V S has a good point

2018-12-26 23:15:52 UTC  

I said that a big economy enables good culture

2018-12-26 23:15:58 UTC  

"but do you not know that economic growth is the driving force behind cultural advances"

2018-12-26 23:16:00 UTC  

It dosent bring it.

2018-12-26 23:16:03 UTC  

learn how to read idiot

2018-12-26 23:16:07 UTC  

Only the people can do that.

2018-12-26 23:16:25 UTC  

without wealth we have stone age stuff lol

2018-12-26 23:16:42 UTC  

Caveman Culture

2018-12-26 23:17:37 UTC  

economy has always pulled technology and social advances behind it

2018-12-26 23:18:12 UTC  

it is a phenomenon of only ultra wealthy civilizations to slip into decadence

2018-12-26 23:19:16 UTC  

@Doctor Anon National pride comes before the economy

2018-12-26 23:19:17 UTC  

recall two things. 1. the question was whether a nation should aim to improve its economy _no matter what_. 2. recall that i never said a nation shouldnt seek to improve its economy. Rather, it should be one of many social goals, usually below cultural enrichment. For a rich cultural environment enhances the economy in a neat feedback loop, generating new markets as well as inspiring new developments. When profit is chased without regard to cultural enrichment, we get essentially the socio-cultural environment we see today in america

2018-12-26 23:19:22 UTC  

But

2018-12-26 23:19:23 UTC  

usually

2018-12-26 23:19:37 UTC  

95% of the time

2018-12-26 23:19:44 UTC  

economic growth is nothing but a net positive

2018-12-26 23:20:04 UTC  

you're creating a disagreement where you don't need to @Jay1532

2018-12-26 23:20:32 UTC  

hows that. i am answering the question posed

2018-12-26 23:20:35 UTC  

just say "yeah, economic power is necessary in conjunction with cultural goals"

2018-12-26 23:20:47 UTC  

thats not what im trying to say, though

2018-12-26 23:20:51 UTC  

instead of talking like a 105 iq pseudo-intellectual