Message from @Koninos

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2018-07-26 19:03:53 UTC  

"Other findings have also suggested that some animals may even be capable of showing empathy with the suffering of other species."

2018-07-26 19:04:09 UTC  

I see

2018-07-26 19:04:18 UTC  

very interesting indeed

2018-07-26 19:05:00 UTC  

Its still controversial as its one of those Science Vs. Religion things

2018-07-26 19:06:06 UTC  

The problem is religion makes humans feel special

2018-07-26 19:06:23 UTC  

especially the thought of your species being the only intellegent lifeform that will get to go to the afterlife

2018-07-26 19:06:46 UTC  

but then when that gets disproved, not only does it mock religion, but it mocks humans aswell so of course there will be denial

2018-07-26 19:11:28 UTC  

at least I don't relate morality as a religious matter

2018-07-26 19:12:28 UTC  

but the capacity of judge if actions are right or wrong according to your principles

2018-07-26 19:13:51 UTC  

which might be founded in religion,of course,but also in sole logic

2018-07-26 19:18:51 UTC  

"why would I attack somebody who haven't done anything against me?"or "why do I have to obey my authorities?" can be answered outside of a religious perspective if you ask me

2018-07-26 19:37:41 UTC  

aaand I killed the chat

2018-07-27 01:54:50 UTC  

>porpaganda

2018-07-27 08:40:10 UTC  
2018-07-27 08:40:17 UTC  

Mhm

2018-07-27 08:40:24 UTC  

What do you define as nationalism?

2018-07-27 08:40:26 UTC  

In your words?

2018-07-27 08:42:09 UTC  

I haven't ever searched about Nationalism in the terms of owning a state. Nationalism in my words is a far right winded ideology. It is born from Fascism, and it is a light form if Fascism is we wanted to make this easy-to- understand.

2018-07-27 08:42:26 UTC  

That's where i disagree

2018-07-27 08:42:40 UTC  

I take nationalism as an ifeology

2018-07-27 08:42:44 UTC  

Ideology*

2018-07-27 08:42:51 UTC  

Nationalism in of itself is not an ideology

2018-07-27 08:43:01 UTC  

It can be politicized and used *in* an ideology

2018-07-27 08:43:15 UTC  

Yes, I agree, but I'm only talking for the nationalist ideology.

2018-07-27 08:43:24 UTC  

Nationalism has existed since the first civilization arose

2018-07-27 08:43:55 UTC  

Not when it comes to ideology

2018-07-27 08:44:04 UTC  

Historians anywhere agree, Nationalism is not Fascism, Fascism used nationalism and abused it to it's extreme.

2018-07-27 08:44:07 UTC  

I am not talking for the nationalism you claim it exists

2018-07-27 08:44:15 UTC  

I am talkig about the Nationalist ideology

2018-07-27 08:44:28 UTC  

Describe this "ideology" then

2018-07-27 08:44:35 UTC  

Didn't I?

2018-07-27 08:44:41 UTC  

"Light Fascism"

2018-07-27 08:44:48 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-27 08:44:49 UTC  

Fascism is broad

2018-07-27 08:44:53 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-27 08:45:01 UTC  

You forget it was founded by a socialist

2018-07-27 08:45:07 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-27 08:45:20 UTC  

Socialist but not applied as a socialist

2018-07-27 08:45:35 UTC  

The inventor of fascism, Giovanni Gentile, called Fascism "the ultimate form of socialism"

2018-07-27 08:45:53 UTC  

But it isn't exactly.