Message from @Alice Redacted

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2018-08-26 23:34:54 UTC  

but i'll keep reading

2018-08-26 23:37:04 UTC  

My aim in this paper was not to prove the biological reality of race

2018-08-26 23:37:05 UTC  

also

2018-08-26 23:37:09 UTC  

that's a quote

2018-08-27 00:41:27 UTC  

We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico).

Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races.

Knowing all of these things, and knowing that they are indisputable facts, it is unlikely that race is simply a social construct, and what is more likely, however, is that the push to downplay it as such is rooted in political and ideological motivations @21tagtmeiern

2018-08-27 00:42:07 UTC  

It's similar to the Soviets refusing to accept evolution because it did not conform to communism's traditional belief set

2018-08-27 02:40:19 UTC  

Oh my, Irma is a taxonomist now too

2018-08-27 02:40:30 UTC  

Is there anything she wont LARP as?

2018-08-27 03:33:17 UTC  

"We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico)."

2018-08-27 03:33:55 UTC  

Have you ever considered that a majority of the other issues are related to socio-economic differences

2018-08-27 03:34:21 UTC  

and that further, the socio-economic differences are artificial, enforced through racist practices and historical bias?

2018-08-27 03:35:22 UTC  

For instance, centuries of slavery, followed by poor civil rights, followed by discriminator societal attitudes

2018-08-27 03:36:22 UTC  

I mean, it's been less than 50 years since de jure segregation ended

2018-08-27 03:36:37 UTC  

there's still tons of de facto segregation, lingering actual segregation, and racial biases in society

2018-08-27 03:37:02 UTC  

"Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races."

2018-08-27 03:38:26 UTC  

Yes, but the same for dynasties, and other traits

2018-08-27 03:38:42 UTC  

there's also just a natural degree of variation between people

2018-08-27 03:39:06 UTC  

50 years ago

2018-08-27 03:39:16 UTC  

ah

2018-08-27 03:39:17 UTC  

my bad

2018-08-27 03:39:23 UTC  

yeah, slightly over 50 now

2018-08-27 03:39:35 UTC  

No you're right I'm just saying that it's been a while

2018-08-27 03:39:44 UTC  

not even a lifetime

2018-08-27 03:39:51 UTC  

there aren't many effects of it

2018-08-27 03:39:57 UTC  

blacks bring themselves down

2018-08-27 03:40:00 UTC  

you can't bring an entire class out of poverty in 50 years without plenty of help

2018-08-27 03:40:00 UTC  

not white people

2018-08-27 03:40:02 UTC  

no, they don't

2018-08-27 03:40:07 UTC  

Yes they don't

2018-08-27 03:40:18 UTC  

just watch that

2018-08-27 03:40:20 UTC  

for instance

2018-08-27 03:40:23 UTC  

it's rather insightful

2018-08-27 03:40:28 UTC  

when black people stop killing each other and start trying in life then I might believe you

2018-08-27 03:40:28 UTC  

but again

2018-08-27 03:40:35 UTC  

50 years ago is the *de jure* end to segregation

2018-08-27 03:40:39 UTC  

we're ignoring malicious practices

2018-08-27 03:40:48 UTC  

yes

2018-08-27 03:40:48 UTC  

like redlining, gentrification, predatory loaning, etc

2018-08-27 03:40:52 UTC  

that ended years ago

2018-08-27 03:40:59 UTC  

eh, not entirely