Message from @The Big Oof
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I don't even how one would think Venezuela is a social democracy, unless there is a misunderstanding of what social democratic economics are, the economy is fuled by private enterprise
and think it's interchangeable with Democratic Socialism
First of all, let's back up here, what is "Socialism?" Do you think it's interchangeable with "social programs"?
Funny, when I talk to most socialists they claim Venezuela isn't socialist for the same reasons you claim social democrats aren't. It is capitalist and people still have private property
I know I'm bringing up wikipedia, but this is a good description of social democratic economics @campodin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_market_economy
also
That statement
we can demonstrate in Germany that people have private property rights and that it's driven by business....
While I can and have argued why social programs are socialist in nature, the fact is social democrats still turn certain aspects of the economy public which can be nothing but socialist
We can demonstrate that Venezuelans do not have private property rights and that their economy is not driven by private enterprise
Do you think Venezuela is driven by private enterprise?
In large part it still had private enterprise
They've been attempting to steer away from that
true, but they never got there
Soc Dem economics do not have that as a goal
They (Venezuela) will never get there
In a way, they are correct that Venezuela isn't true socialism
Because socialism is a utopian fantasy
it will never happen
well I'm glad we agree on that
Social Democrats believe in private property, and it's not a "rebrand of socialism" either like was suggested by someone earlier
I'm sure we'll debate this more later but I gotta go to bed
Their policies directly contradict each other
later
For some reason I dont see this election as a good sign of anything, sure it demonstrated some change however the change was brutally low. And will remain non noticable and the fact is that as time goes on things will get worse.
demographics will change etc.
I dont think people really even voted for anyone that was decently right wing or pro native
not only that heritage in sweden is a long forgotten myth almost, at least ethnic heritage because when you look at what they are doing with viking artefacts its literally a crime against humanity, they are erasing the existence of vikings literally removing the roots of a people
IMO this would be grounds for literal revolution and hangings
this is literal erasure of history
The germans during WWII wouldnt even do this, hell the barbarians running into rome didnt do this
I dont think even the ottomans or arabic dominated regions did this
I cant agree with Styx here, they will continue to grow until they become leftists, th eissue is time which is not on the side of any ethnic interest.
the more years pass the smaller natives are in their own country, and it depends if they even other to vote
I dont think SD is the solution and I predict their cucking very soon
I also see Trump as the false revolutionary
eh whatever
wel see what happens i predict that sweden will become even more leftist in the next elections
We can't vote away such deeply rooted corruption
I mean the entire system needs reform