Message from @Spookaswa

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2018-10-22 04:51:49 UTC  

Maybe it is a stretch to say Hitler wasn't third position

2018-10-22 04:51:54 UTC  

but he was certainly further from it

2018-10-22 04:51:58 UTC  

than the other fascist leaders were

2018-10-22 04:52:00 UTC  

Yea.

2018-10-22 04:52:10 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-22 04:53:09 UTC  

But national socialism wasn't this massive welfare state it's thought to be

2018-10-22 04:53:12 UTC  

Again I like the idea of Profit Sharing, Labour Conscription for Incels and even a Progressive Income Tax that is fairer for low income earners.

2018-10-22 04:53:18 UTC  

People were working like 70 hours a week at one point

2018-10-22 04:53:25 UTC  

Damn.

2018-10-22 05:05:08 UTC  

then unions happened

2018-10-22 05:05:58 UTC  

Do right wing communists exist

2018-10-22 05:06:05 UTC  

no

2018-10-22 05:06:17 UTC  

I guess strasserists kinda

2018-10-22 05:06:41 UTC  

Aren't Strasserists 3P?

2018-10-22 05:06:44 UTC  

Strasserists aren't right wing

2018-10-22 05:07:08 UTC  
2018-10-22 05:07:51 UTC  

I would consider Juche third position

2018-10-22 05:07:57 UTC  

Dengism, maybe, but Juche definitely is

2018-10-22 05:08:00 UTC  

3P's kinda right-wing in some parts

2018-10-22 05:08:17 UTC  

Right Wing socially left wing economically

2018-10-22 05:08:19 UTC  

usually

2018-10-22 05:08:19 UTC  

I mean, 3P is inherently both right and left wing

2018-10-22 05:08:50 UTC  

3P is 100% nationalism

2018-10-22 05:08:56 UTC  

hence the so called "left and right wing positions"

2018-10-22 05:09:22 UTC  

no nationalist would want their country whored out to big business

2018-10-22 05:10:04 UTC  

there's a difference between not wanting predatory multinational corporations to exploit a country and being nationalist/reactionary, though

2018-10-22 05:10:31 UTC  

Fascism isn't a reactionary ideology

2018-10-22 05:10:45 UTC  

and yes, I will die on this hill

2018-10-22 05:10:47 UTC  

one second

2018-10-22 05:11:25 UTC  

dusting off my copy of the doctrine of fascism

2018-10-22 05:12:13 UTC  

I'd call an ideology which is ultranationalist, authoritarian, and generally supports conservative cultural notions reactionary

2018-10-22 05:12:15 UTC  

@SilverLining
"The Fascist negation of socialism, democracy, liberalism, should not, however, be interpreted as implying a desire to drive the world backwards to positions occupied prior to 1789, a year commonly referred to as that which opened the demo-liberal century. History does not travel backwards. The Fascist doctrine has not taken De Maistre as its prophet. Monarchical absolutism is of the past, and so is ecclesiolatry. Dead and done for are feudal privileges and the division of society into closed, uncommunicating castes. Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State."

2018-10-22 05:12:35 UTC  

-Bennito Mussolini/Giovanni Gentile

2018-10-22 05:13:52 UTC  

Generally, however, modern fascists tend to be reactionary

2018-10-22 05:14:15 UTC  

modern fascists are generally national socialists

2018-10-22 05:14:23 UTC  

the hitlerite kind

2018-10-22 05:14:26 UTC  

and even the, fascism often seeks to re-institute many reactionary cultural notions

2018-10-22 05:14:31 UTC  

or societal establishments, to some degree

2018-10-22 05:15:06 UTC  

not quite feudal lords and so on, but traditional, previously status quo institutions

2018-10-22 05:15:51 UTC  

Mussolini has big gay