But it's not as black and white as that

extremely heavy economic intervention by the state

Market intervention is not socialism

Not market intervention

heavy market intervention

Take Venezeula for example

Fascism doesn't seek to abolish private property

The state owns the property

in fascism

In Mussolini's case, it was a mixture of state capitalism with state socialism

No

Mussolini wasn't a man of his word

Not really

it depends

he didn't follow fascism as he should have

and state socialism is just socialism

state capitalism does not exist

Hitler for instance was pro-private property, but he winded up betraying national socialism in the end

Yes it does

It's just semantics

No it doesn't

define state capitalism

Hitler was pro private property in the sense that he could seize it if it went against the state, it was heavily regulated

A business can be owned by the state and driven by profit, being ran like any other business

lmao no it fucking wasn't

define state capitalism

first of all

Wait wait

lets define that

>the market was heavily regulated

wrong

define

state capitalism

You can't introduce a series of points and then try to force someone to address a specific point.

Ok ignore them for now

If you do that, I'm just not going to bother

Define state capitalism

We'll get onto it later

I'd say a simple definition is a system where the state owns commercial, for-profit enterprises that are generally ran like any other business is, just owned by the state

Then thats socialism

state and capitalism is an oxymoron