we're not there yet

Another thing I'd like to clarrify

National socialism is not fascism

but a form of it

But here is why national socialism is a form of socialism

Yes, but it is being used as an example

Capitalism is an individualist system, that's not something anyone can argue with and since socialism is collectivist and that Nazi Germany was a collectivist movement, there's no question that Hitler was a socialist. You can't say NAZI Germany wasn't collectivist but deny that Hitler was not using a form of socialism

-All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

-The tax rates were extremely high, high as 80% I believe.

-"As Ludwig Von Mises once correctly observed, the German economy under Hitler was not capitalist at all….

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
"

-Privatisation was just in name as the state really owned the companies due to their regulation and such. The business "owners" would be told what to make, when to make and how much to make.

-Hitler Nationalised healthcare, churches, automobile industry, the press so he could control what people heard and watched.

-Hitler created trade unions such as the German Labour front.

Fascism is anti market

The German Labour front was not what you think

strong state intervention in the economy

it was there to force people to work

I know what it was

correct

collectivist

You just outlined a corporatist economy above

Thats a national socialist economy

a form of socialism

yes

Corporatism is not socialism

Corporationist would be different , as it would not be repressed

yes I know

this is national socialist

not corporationist

`Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing`

this is only true to an extent

How so?

These policies were abandoned after a certain point

oh so he ditched national socialism

well then

National socialism in theory is a form of socialism

Whether or not he followed it exactly

Strasserism is definitely socialism

Hitlerite national socialism

Strasserism?

is basically capitalism with state intervention

Capitalism and state intervention

is an oxymoron

Strasserites were the "left wing" of the nazi party

it is not

fascism solves the problem of unemployment and poverty by establishing the corporate state, which will be divided into national corporations governed by representatives of employers, workers and consumers, operating under a fascist government. the state will not attempt to conduct industry as it would under socialism, instead, the state will lay down the limits within which industry' may operate, and those limits will be the national welfare. private ownership will be permitted and encouraged, provided such activity enriches the nation as well as the individual.