wrong

define

state capitalism

You can't introduce a series of points and then try to force someone to address a specific point.

Ok ignore them for now

If you do that, I'm just not going to bother

Define state capitalism

We'll get onto it later

I'd say a simple definition is a system where the state owns commercial, for-profit enterprises that are generally ran like any other business is, just owned by the state

Then thats socialism

state and capitalism is an oxymoron

as capitalism is a free market

free from state intervention

or that is corporationism

It's corporatism

Not socialism

then that isn't capitalism

Right

Yes correct

yes

Ok now state socialism

I'm not disagreeing

define that

It is corporatism

yeah I know just clarifying

A somewhat dirty definition of state socialism is when the state owns the means of production and redistributes everything

which isn't the same as state capitalism

that is socialism

in itself

yes

no need to call it state

Ok so we got that

Do you agree even if the means of production are private , if there is heavy state intervention in the market. It would be considered socialism?

like Venezuela

Because if you look at business freedom in Venezeula, it's below repressed...

and repressed is socialist

it depends on what is being seized. If small enterprise is allowed but large enterprises are nationalized, it's more or less market socialism

depending on how they are run of course

As in theres strong state intervention

let me show you

which is not at all how Nazi Germany was run btw