Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-05 18:35:27 UTC  

Communism is the real impossibility

2018-12-05 18:35:38 UTC  

A stateless, moneyless, marketless community where the MoP is owned by the workers

2018-12-05 18:35:40 UTC  

not a chance

2018-12-05 18:35:55 UTC  

sure

2018-12-05 18:35:57 UTC  

anyways

2018-12-05 18:36:32 UTC  

Do you think Russia or China would allow a business to operate that goes agaisnt the state? China certainly wouldn't, with Russia it's somewhat unclear, but they have banned services like Telegram for this

2018-12-05 18:36:51 UTC  

Possibly

2018-12-05 18:36:58 UTC  

Although it would be still freer than Nazi Germany

2018-12-05 18:37:16 UTC  

In China's case I seriously doubt that

2018-12-05 18:37:19 UTC  

I'd say it's the same

2018-12-05 18:37:26 UTC  

Nah China isn't like that anymore

2018-12-05 18:37:28 UTC  

Probably under Mao

2018-12-05 18:37:35 UTC  

of course it would for some companies but not like Nazi Germany

2018-12-05 18:37:44 UTC  

"the great lEAp forward"

2018-12-05 18:37:45 UTC  

ahah

2018-12-05 18:37:49 UTC  

<:facepalm:487682504153628701>

2018-12-05 18:38:16 UTC  

Legendary economist Mises pointed this out aswell, national socialism was a form of socialism

2018-12-05 18:38:18 UTC  

and he was damn right

2018-12-05 18:38:35 UTC  

The same can be said about fascism however in Mussolini's case he wasn't a man of his word

2018-12-05 18:38:39 UTC  

and didn't follow through correctly

2018-12-05 18:38:56 UTC  

so it probably WaSnt ReAl FaSciSm

2018-12-05 18:39:06 UTC  

to your credit you're making somewhat of a strong argument that Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist, but I don't feel like you proved it was socialist

2018-12-05 18:39:12 UTC  

Oh, it was indeed real fascism

2018-12-05 18:39:19 UTC  

He didn't follow through properly

2018-12-05 18:39:22 UTC  

he wasn't a man of his word

2018-12-05 18:39:24 UTC  

I'm not going to write a failure off as not the real thing

2018-12-05 18:39:34 UTC  

I mean he didn't follow it through properly

2018-12-05 18:39:34 UTC  

But there are examples of the free market failing, too

2018-12-05 18:39:37 UTC  

I get it

2018-12-05 18:39:41 UTC  

Nah I don't mean failing

2018-12-05 18:39:48 UTC  

as in he didn't follow fascism's policies

2018-12-05 18:39:57 UTC  

yeah, well Mussolini was a retard

2018-12-05 18:39:57 UTC  

not all of them

2018-12-05 18:39:59 UTC  

lol ye

2018-12-05 18:40:02 UTC  

fascism is retarded

2018-12-05 18:41:19 UTC  

Not really. It's necessary to defend yourself from predatory businesses. A lot of blame for cultural decay and open borders falls on cultural marxism, but it seems to be more the fault of big money and neo-liberalism pushing it.

2018-12-05 18:41:32 UTC  

Where has free market failed though

2018-12-05 18:41:34 UTC  

just curious

2018-12-05 18:42:38 UTC  

Chile, you're going to disagree but let me explain.

Chile is doing extremely well right now and was at the end of Pinochet's regime, but throughout the majority of it, it was actually doing pretty bad and overall wages actually decreased as well as the GDP growth, despite it growing much later

2018-12-05 18:42:54 UTC  

like the last 2-3 years of him being in power

2018-12-05 18:42:58 UTC  

was really the only growth he had