Message from @Reb Trump
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GOVT IS SHUT DOWN
shut fuck up
well at least the americans left syria
Not entirely
well i think they should just leave syria alone enitrely
ive seen many americans say that america by pulling out of syria is refusing to listen to israel, a lot of israelis want the US out
I dont think the USA is pulling out against izraels will, rather its because the attempt to destabilize syria into the stone age failed
The US is however setting up i think some boarder stations? Observation stations?
idk where but it seems that its gonna stick around for a little while longer
there are longterm posts just like the us did with afghanistan.
welp, thats not pulling out :/
well you are right, what i meant to say was at least the US is leaving for the most part. Observation posts are a far cry from boots on the ground warfare
why does the US benefit from destabilizing Syria @Bogatyr Bogumir ?
Because fuck Arabs
The main reason why Europe even has a refugee crisis is because of western intervention in Syria and the Middle East you retarded cum drinker
Cum is based
@Spookaswa Without the the US, Assad and others would get along just fine. The natural state of the arab and muslim world is utter traquility. The problem is that this only sounds true to you if you're stuck in bubble, where you keep swallowing your own bullshit `you retarded cum drinker`.
When did I claim that the Muslim world would be some utopia? obviously the Middle East will always have problems, but the region would arguably be better had the United States and NATO not intervened.
how much better?
would Assad not have opted for chemical weapons?
you're blaming a 3rd party
when the real responsibility is on Europe and its retarded policy of blindly accepting refugees
The US and NATO intervening is only part of the problem, the reasoning behind the instability of the ME can be traced back to the end of World War I, where, instead of fulfilling their promise to the Arabs, the French and British carved up the Middle East and absorb it into their empires, but, even then, stability could still have been achieved. However, I find the NATO and US interventions in the region, especially in cases like the 2003 invasion of Iraq to be a great problem to stability, yes, the regimes there are brutal, but they at least achieved stability somewhat. The west is to blame for both sides misfortunes in this case, allowing millions of "refugees" in their nations was indeed retarded, but it would not have been as bad if they had decided to not intervene, as the conflict would have been on a smaller scale.
You're telling me that the arab world is destabilized because the west only gave them their own nations a couple decades later. How does that follow? You say the invasion of Iraq was the cause of some of the instability. I say it was Obama's pullout. It really depends on what point in time you're willing to take for granted. In your case, you'll go back all the way to WW1 to blame the west, while the discussion is centered on the US and not on the French and British. If you blame NATO and the US for getting involved in the Syrian civil war, why do you not also blame Russia, Iran and Hezbollah (still Iran)? You're assuming what would have happened in an alternate reality without interference. All the while, the Syrian civil was arose as part of the Arab Spring and the entire Arab Spring has been brutal. If you want to back all the way to WW1, I remember when the US didn't get involved and 90% of Ottoman Armenians were murdered. Increased support and weaponry doesn't necessarily increase scale. Look at the cold war: weaponry and support both kept increasing, but this only pushed the outcome to a stalemate. What was the difference? The conflict was between civilized white people.
@Reb Trump The US doesnt really gain anything except political leverage in the region, military leverage and an excuse to have more armies there meaning more general control. However IMO this isnt for the US's sake but rather izraels, who aren't... fond of their neighbors
Ive talked toa bunch of guys from the middle yeast and their general consensus is that they need strong royal leaders, tyrants, and they like it as well, because that is the nature of their culture and regions. Intervention of any kind simply completely ruined the countries, not to mention the US likes to fund, train and arm certain groups. Its silly to think that the US isnt part of this entire debacle at some conspiritorial level, considering its massive reach and power. I wouldnt be suprised to learn that the psuedo cold war we have now tih russia was a massive lie and ruse
yeh
Lets go
Trump is not a Nationalist as he said he was
He lied about this shit
He's in love with Israel
He's not putting America first
He's putting Israel first
Explain how hes put Israel first?
He just another Zionist shill
Thats not answering the question fam
Whats so bad about being a friend with Israel