Message from @Reb Trump

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2018-12-24 00:39:36 UTC  

doesn't change reality

2018-12-24 00:39:47 UTC  

Abbas is in charge of the PSF

2018-12-24 00:39:55 UTC  

and Abbas can't do shit in Gaza

2018-12-24 00:40:08 UTC  

they're an inflated police force

2018-12-24 00:40:27 UTC  

quick question - what would you guys support, Palestine or restored Kingdom of Jerusalem?

2018-12-24 00:40:27 UTC  

which army would defend "Palestine" from an invasion?

2018-12-24 00:40:41 UTC  

neither

2018-12-24 00:40:46 UTC  

Israel

2018-12-24 00:41:13 UTC  

UN membership doesn’t determine if a country is recognizable

2018-12-24 00:41:30 UTC  

there is one army responsible for defending the gazan and the west bank borders

2018-12-24 00:41:37 UTC  

what's that army called?

2018-12-24 00:42:01 UTC  

habibi

2018-12-24 00:42:03 UTC  

it's the IDF

2018-12-24 00:43:59 UTC  

palestine's status as a soveirgn state is only recognized by individual countries

2018-12-24 00:44:01 UTC  

PSF would defend Palestine, I just said it’s effectiveness is disputable. But the fact it exists means it can defend and enforce sovereignty

2018-12-24 00:44:07 UTC  

no, it wouldn't

2018-12-24 00:44:17 UTC  

if an invasion happened

2018-12-24 00:44:22 UTC  

Abbas would hop on the phone

2018-12-24 00:44:25 UTC  

and call up Bibi

2018-12-24 00:44:44 UTC  

You could say that about a bunch of other weak countries tho

2018-12-24 00:44:51 UTC  

Article XII of the Oslo II Accord states:
″In order to guarantee public order and internal security for the Palestinians of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the [Palestinian] Council shall establish a strong police force as set out in Article XIV below. Israel shall continue to carry the responsibility for defense against external threats, including the responsibility for protecting the Egyptian and Jordanian borders, and for defense against external threats from the sea and from the air, as well as the responsibility for overall security of Israelis and Settlements, for the purpose of safeguarding their internal security and public order, and will have all the powers to take the steps necessary to meet this responsibility.″

2018-12-24 00:45:02 UTC  

Luxembourg’s gets invaded, it’s probably gonna call France

2018-12-24 00:45:21 UTC  

except it's not legally bound to call France

2018-12-24 00:45:26 UTC  

like "palestine" is

2018-12-24 00:46:58 UTC  

But that wouldn’t inherently not make it a nation though

2018-12-24 00:47:14 UTC  

I don't have to disqualify it to be a nation

2018-12-24 00:47:28 UTC  

you have to qualify it as one

2018-12-24 00:47:40 UTC  

and according to that dude's definition

2018-12-24 00:47:44 UTC  

it's not doing well

2018-12-24 00:47:53 UTC  

That dude isn’t 100% right

2018-12-24 00:48:06 UTC  

sounds like he's close to being 100% wrong then

2018-12-24 00:49:12 UTC  

if palestine wants to be a soveirgn nation

2018-12-24 00:49:18 UTC  

it needs to negotiate with Israel

2018-12-24 00:49:42 UTC  

They make laws for their area and have international recognition from a majority of the world

2018-12-24 00:50:19 UTC  

that's not how it works.

2018-12-24 00:50:39 UTC  

when going by individual recognition

2018-12-24 00:50:55 UTC  

it's a state only within the context of its relationship with that country

2018-12-24 00:51:19 UTC  

if it wants to be a soveirgn state

2018-12-24 00:51:26 UTC  

it needs to be voted in like Israel

2018-12-24 00:51:38 UTC  

and have control over its borders

2018-12-24 00:51:53 UTC  

and it'll only get that