Message from @Reb Trump
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They have international relations with many countries. They are involved in many supranational organizations and many countries recognize them. They DO have a standing army and security services. Their effectiveness is disputable, but that can be said of many nations. They do technically have a flag. A currency isn’t necessarily a requirement for being a state
`They have international relations with many countries.` - I'm happy for them. `They are involved in many supranational organizations and many countries recognize them.`- Not enough do. `They DO have a standing army and security services.` - What is their 'standing army' called? `Their effectiveness is disputable, but that can be said of many nations.` - Which nation has no control over its armed forces? `They do technically have a flag.` - Yeah, it's the Flag of the Arab Federation. `A currency isn’t necessarily a requirement for being a state`- Other guy said it was, but ok.
>70% of nations recognize Palestine
NOT ENOUGH
Btw look up Palestinian Security Services smh not that hard
>a majority of all countries recognize Palestine
>Asuka never said they didn't have control over the armed forces
>if sovereign currency was a qualifier for a country, then several countries in multiple continents wouldn't be considered countries, including: El Salvador, Ecuador, Zimbabwe, a majority of the EU, etc.
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Not enough to vote them fully in. And the Palestinian Security Forces aren't their army. They have no army. Who's in charge of the PSF? I know the answer, but I wanna play this out.
The general assembly recognizes them due to the Partition Plan, the US just doesn’t recognize them because (((reasons))) and their allies follow smh
just say it's the jews
And if you know I’m not gonna waste my time. It’s on the Wikipedia page
I don't care
"palestine" isn't a full member state
you can blame the jews for it
doesn't change reality
Abbas is in charge of the PSF
and Abbas can't do shit in Gaza
they're an inflated police force
quick question - what would you guys support, Palestine or restored Kingdom of Jerusalem?
neither
Israel
UN membership doesn’t determine if a country is recognizable
there is one army responsible for defending the gazan and the west bank borders
what's that army called?
habibi
it's the IDF
palestine's status as a soveirgn state is only recognized by individual countries
PSF would defend Palestine, I just said it’s effectiveness is disputable. But the fact it exists means it can defend and enforce sovereignty
no, it wouldn't
if an invasion happened
Abbas would hop on the phone
and call up Bibi
You could say that about a bunch of other weak countries tho
Article XII of the Oslo II Accord states:
″In order to guarantee public order and internal security for the Palestinians of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the [Palestinian] Council shall establish a strong police force as set out in Article XIV below. Israel shall continue to carry the responsibility for defense against external threats, including the responsibility for protecting the Egyptian and Jordanian borders, and for defense against external threats from the sea and from the air, as well as the responsibility for overall security of Israelis and Settlements, for the purpose of safeguarding their internal security and public order, and will have all the powers to take the steps necessary to meet this responsibility.″
Luxembourg’s gets invaded, it’s probably gonna call France
except it's not legally bound to call France
like "palestine" is
But that wouldn’t inherently not make it a nation though
I don't have to disqualify it to be a nation