Message from @NullJager

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2018-06-09 14:36:54 UTC  

Right

2018-06-09 15:02:20 UTC  

I'm liberal of 40 years ago

2018-06-09 15:14:15 UTC  

I don't really know what I would call myself. I don't have a solid position on economics, but I know I don't believe in free markets, and I don't believe in communism.

I think capitalism works, but I don't like the culture runaway consumerism creates. At the same time, I also feel like too much regulation can make a group of people "soft."

I think the state has two main purposes:

1. To protect its people, from external and internal forces.
2. To protect the culture while ensuring happiness.

I don't believe in speech policing, because that's what got us to where we are now. I think the first amendment and free speech are very important and should be protected, though I also think the right to vote should be a privilege, not a right. It should be earned. How I would go about that, I'm not sure. The two ideas in my head are through some form of service (it doesn't have to be the military) or through owning property, as was initially intended for the United States. I don't like how politics is a game of demagoguery and narratives, I think it should be more than that.

2018-06-09 15:15:15 UTC  

I guess you could loosely say some of my beliefs fall in line with the founding fathers, but there's also several areas where I disagree.

2018-06-09 15:15:19 UTC  

You sound like a minarchyist

2018-06-09 15:15:22 UTC  

Especially in the economics area

2018-06-09 15:15:31 UTC  

I wouldn't call myself a minarchist

2018-06-09 15:15:59 UTC  

I'd say I'm far from it

2018-06-09 15:16:11 UTC  

Lol you'd be supprised

2018-06-09 15:17:14 UTC  

well, because I think some things should be regulated. I think the environment needs to be protected, and I'd be willing to sacrifice economic growth for that

2018-06-09 15:18:09 UTC  

I've also seen how big tech uses its power to push corporate censorship

2018-06-09 15:19:09 UTC  

and I would take measures to oppose that, because I believe businesses can take away someone's freedom.

2018-06-09 15:19:22 UTC  

For example

2018-06-09 15:20:02 UTC  

Places like twitter should be a public forum.

2018-06-09 15:23:45 UTC  

(which, it sort of was recently ruled to be one by a judge)

2018-06-09 15:24:57 UTC  

And when I say "public forum," I mean you should be able to discuss anything as long as you are not advocating for violence or anything that would take away infringe on person's rights

2018-06-09 15:25:36 UTC  

I'd refrain from the second half of that

2018-06-09 15:25:56 UTC  

Because they can advocate for it, which is where you counter it.

2018-06-09 15:26:01 UTC  

Why not? Corporate censorship is a huge problem

2018-06-09 15:26:02 UTC  

Oh

2018-06-09 15:26:04 UTC  

Not the violence part.

2018-06-09 15:26:17 UTC  

You sound like a minarchist still

2018-06-09 15:26:42 UTC  

The violence can get fucked.
If anybody calls for violence, they can fuck off.

But to advocate for something that restricts rights is perfectly alright, as long as you counter their arguments with your own.

2018-06-09 15:26:46 UTC  

@Josh42A But wouldn't a minarchist believe in the free market? I would enforce such policies through the government

2018-06-09 15:27:06 UTC  

A minarchist could never support environmental regulations.

2018-06-09 15:27:07 UTC  

Minarchism to a degree.

2018-06-09 15:27:24 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз And I strongly support environmental regulations.

2018-06-09 15:27:29 UTC  

Same

2018-06-09 15:27:43 UTC  

This is why the minarchist server I moderate hates me

2018-06-09 15:27:48 UTC  

Nature is a part of national history and culture, and therefore, it needs to be protected

2018-06-09 15:27:53 UTC  

^

2018-06-09 15:27:58 UTC  

Minarchism is pretty specific, unlike libertarianism. Minarchists specifically want as little government as possible.

2018-06-09 15:28:07 UTC  

Even if that comes at the cost of economic benefit

2018-06-09 15:28:16 UTC  

As little as possible.
Which to each person is a differing degree.

2018-06-09 15:28:55 UTC  

That and animals affect environmental factors we don't know what kinds of negotitive effects eliminating certain species would have

2018-06-09 15:29:14 UTC  

Yellowstone and wolves for example.

2018-06-09 15:29:16 UTC  

For me it's mostly the cultural aspect of it, though that matters, too

2018-06-09 15:29:19 UTC  

Yep

2018-06-09 15:29:25 UTC  

Eliminated the wolves, deer fucked places up.

2018-06-09 15:29:33 UTC  

This sounds like we all watch too much Joe Rogan

2018-06-09 15:31:21 UTC  

I don't watch him all that much.