Message from @Zavjeru

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2018-08-15 02:03:31 UTC  

Pascels wager was never "debunked", it's a fair critizism of that type of thinking. what's wrong with it

2018-08-15 02:04:28 UTC  

all it points out is "what if you're wrong you could go to hell" is an unsound argument for being religous

2018-08-15 02:04:29 UTC  

I don't think anybody builds their faith on "well if I'm wrong I'm going to Hell".

2018-08-15 02:04:41 UTC  

I just told you, it applies to all faiths, but yes, even I suppose to a lack thereof, but therein lies the issue, if you can apply Pascal's Wager to all beliefs regarding the afterlife, its usefulness becomes moot.

2018-08-15 02:04:51 UTC  

not saying anyone does, but some people use that argument on athiests

2018-08-15 02:04:54 UTC  

it's been used on me

2018-08-15 02:04:56 UTC  

It isn't meant to be useful in the first place.

2018-08-15 02:05:09 UTC  

Nobody bases faith on it.

2018-08-15 02:05:12 UTC  

It is just the hypothetical question

2018-08-15 02:05:13 UTC  

Then why did she give it as a reason?

2018-08-15 02:05:15 UTC  

a lot of people do mean for it to, I'm not saying you do

2018-08-15 02:05:22 UTC  

but I've experienced it

2018-08-15 02:05:24 UTC  

No one care in the end

2018-08-15 02:05:28 UTC  

Ask her if she builds her faith on it.

2018-08-15 02:06:00 UTC  

It's a catch-22, if that is your sole reason for being faithful then it isn't real faith.

2018-08-15 02:06:04 UTC  

Pathetic mental gymnastics.

2018-08-15 02:06:18 UTC  

I quite literally asked why those who believed did... and that was her answer... so now you're calling her a... liar?

2018-08-15 02:06:25 UTC  

Read above.

2018-08-15 02:06:39 UTC  

People don't use pascals wager for their own faith, they use it to try to tell atheists that they are dumb

2018-08-15 02:06:40 UTC  

Are you illiterate as well as a pseudointellectual now?

2018-08-15 02:06:43 UTC  

You have to ask me if I base my faith in a fear to going to hell

2018-08-15 02:06:52 UTC  

It’s that simple

2018-08-15 02:07:06 UTC  

Zexy, I'm not sure why you're so hostile.

2018-08-15 02:07:14 UTC  

Gwyn, so what is your basis?

2018-08-15 02:07:22 UTC  

Low tolerance for pseuds.

2018-08-15 02:07:36 UTC  

Namecalling is silly.

2018-08-15 02:07:45 UTC  

whats a pseud

2018-08-15 02:07:56 UTC  

I'm calling you a pseudointellectual. Hardly "name calling".

2018-08-15 02:07:57 UTC  

i need the name of the fucken song meme where its a charachter and its name and a short desc

2018-08-15 02:07:59 UTC  

halp

2018-08-15 02:08:16 UTC  

that's just trying to dismiss an argument rather then engage it

2018-08-15 02:08:18 UTC  

Dumb poopy head is namecalling.

2018-08-15 02:08:26 UTC  

He's calling me a pseudo intellectual because he disagrees with me and finds it easier to accuse me of overintellecualizing in a false manner than to actually engage with the argument.

2018-08-15 02:08:40 UTC  

someone help

2018-08-15 02:08:46 UTC  

My faith is based on accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and savior. I believe he died on the cross for all humanity’s sins. Hell got thing to do with it.

2018-08-15 02:08:49 UTC  

I found your criticism of Pascal's Wager a strawman, superficial, and irrelevant to faith as a whole.

2018-08-15 02:09:04 UTC  

You used at some kind of crux which I found idiotic.

2018-08-15 02:09:24 UTC  

Zexy, I used Pascal's Wager, because Gwyn brought it up.

2018-08-15 02:09:37 UTC  

I was talking to her specifically when deconstructing it.

2018-08-15 02:09:43 UTC  

because she used it.

2018-08-15 02:09:46 UTC  

So no