Message from @Zavjeru

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2018-08-15 02:28:10 UTC  

Military action

2018-08-15 02:28:19 UTC  

Oh, well in either case innocents are being hurt, yes?

2018-08-15 02:29:10 UTC  

Yes but one is hurting citizens and military alike the other is only attacking a peaceful populace

2018-08-15 02:31:38 UTC  

Well to me, either would be evil. But suppose someone had a very good reason to believe in a faith that told them to do both?

Example that applies to neither New Testament Christians nor Atheists-

Jews believe that their God has ordained in the past that it is good and right to genocide entire peoples.

2018-08-15 02:32:43 UTC  

The convert via sword? That’s what’s you’re asking?

2018-08-15 02:33:19 UTC  

It is wrong imo

2018-08-15 02:33:49 UTC  

Yes, it would be to a Christian like yourself.

2018-08-15 02:34:18 UTC  

The horrifying thing is, there are many ideologies.. popular ideologies that don't see the world through that lens.

2018-08-15 02:34:46 UTC  

Agree, however it does not mean all religion is bad

2018-08-15 02:34:52 UTC  

I never said that

2018-08-15 02:35:00 UTC  

and don't intend to imply it

2018-08-15 02:35:08 UTC  

I said ideology for a reason

2018-08-15 02:36:05 UTC  

Pretty much you are saying some faiths are wrong due to their belief in harming others in the name of their God. Right?

2018-08-15 02:36:45 UTC  

Not at all. It doesn't make them wrong at all. That an ideology tells someone to do things that are repugnant to you or I has nothing to do with whether they're right or not.

2018-08-15 02:36:53 UTC  

I mean there's nothing stopping a god from inciting violence and being immoral

2018-08-15 02:37:02 UTC  

True

2018-08-15 02:37:19 UTC  

so we all agree on that

2018-08-15 02:37:43 UTC  

Nor is there anything stopping a man from doing the same.

2018-08-15 02:40:13 UTC  

Communism, Islam, Judaism, National Socialism... Ultimately, there's little we can say as to whether they are 'right' or 'wrong'. We just know that they demand morally repugnant action (to myself, at least).

That is the one comforting thing about belief in an objective morality, though. At least the Christian can say "They are wrong because God said so."

2018-08-15 02:41:20 UTC  

An atheist who is true to him or herself has to admit that all they have ultimately is their own subjective preferences/values.

2018-08-15 02:43:04 UTC  

Do we want to move on or someone have something to add?

2018-08-15 02:44:16 UTC  

Well, my bootycall just arrived, so I gotta run. Was nice meeting y'all. Take care!

2018-08-15 02:44:25 UTC  

bye

2018-08-15 02:44:27 UTC  

I'm going to sleep so

2018-08-15 02:44:32 UTC  

I don't have anything to add

2018-08-15 02:44:36 UTC  

Be safe and night

2018-08-15 03:52:47 UTC  

Let's do part 2

2018-08-15 05:52:04 UTC  

pls

2018-08-15 06:22:10 UTC  

get dabbed on liberals

2018-08-15 06:46:10 UTC  
2018-08-15 10:43:00 UTC  

Finally found a proper powerlifting gym near me

2018-08-15 12:23:31 UTC  

yawn

2018-08-15 12:23:41 UTC  

@Deleted User stop powerlifting

2018-08-15 12:29:28 UTC  

@6σ why

2018-08-15 12:35:51 UTC  

@Alexander Ramsey TIL, hadn't heard of that before

2018-08-15 12:40:14 UTC  

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2018-08-15 13:01:11 UTC  

@Deleted User cuz u will never beat me

2018-08-15 13:01:12 UTC  

@iwantfun 3pm what time?

2018-08-15 13:13:30 UTC  

@6σ I am going to put your head under my quads and snap ur face

2018-08-15 13:14:15 UTC  

my wilks is prolly 200-300 higher than urs