You said social programs were socialist because they redistribute wealth. Is this not what you said?

Bernie. Not hard left

What drugs are you on commie

Bernie is certainly hard left within American politics but that's not saying much considering both parties are corporate shills.

Within political philosophy as a whole he's just a left libertarian.

yeah i’ve been saying this from an international point of view

There is no "international" standard for that

i would consider bernie to be hard-left in an american context only but not compared internationally

@εïз irma εïз argument is the basis of logic

It's subjective to each country

Okay, Campodin. You made no argument. You made a statement. You have no logic.

@ham addition

Say something of substance or say nothing at all.

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Maybe I just imagined you saying this.

I don't get enough sleep.

Involuntary redistribution of wealth is Socialism

Shut up you filthy commie

@εïз irma εïз look higher

Socialism is the proletariat owning the means of production, and more specifically in an orthodox Marxian sense the stage where the proletariat has their MOP owned on behalf of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Because I made my argument here: Social programs take the capital (means of production) from the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor

Hurr Durr they disagreed on yes or no who gives a shit the majority of people see it as Socialism

Hurr Durr that's not real Socialism

???? You said the same thing.

Anon, I have some very bad news for you. Socialism isn't whatever contrived definition Dennis Prager gave you in a five minute YouTube ad meant to slander people he disagrees with. 😢

Commie

Socialism is a coherent political theory.

I'm a fascist, I just understand words better than you do.

Socialism is not a political theory

@εïз irma εïз you are an idiot. I specifically said the redistribution of means of production.

Socialism is gay

Except that's exactly what it is.

Campodin, you are confusing means of production with fruits of labor.

@campodin excuse zexy, he's a special breed of commie

The worker doesn't own the means of production in social programs nor is the means of production "redistributed". What the fuck does this even mean?

@Doctor Anon I've noticed

socialism is definitely a political

also ginasfs

Wrong

It's gay