You don't either though. How can you make that statement authoritatively?

Because he has made factually inaccurate statements about it

Yeah, he doesn't understand it at all. Progressive taxes are actually terrible for the economy, which is why the Nordic Model is regressive.

The theft of the socialist label and anti-rich sentiment is just populist appeal.

Norway has more business freedom than America does.

@εïз irma εïз on that I'd agree

They're very much capitalist countries that use the same welfare programs you claim would make them socialist.

So you're making contradictory statements.

No I'm not

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Why not?

First off, socialism is not wealth distribution. Secondly, wealth distribution is not giving MOP to the people who receive the money in said distribution scheme. Thirdly, you cannot use point #1 to argue that point #2 is socialist for that reason.

If you chose not to read my explanation of this above then I can understand why you're still misunderstanding.

I never claimed the Nordic model was socialist. I claimed social programs are socialist

But the Nordic Model is the biggest example of welfare capitalism.

And i would say it has socialist aspects to it

It's just fiscally realistic because it accepts regressive financial responsibility rather than the incorrect assumption you can just tax the rich and it'll work out for everybody.

Because Nordic Model proponents understand upper classes reinvest most of their money anyways.

The principle of Berniefaggotry and the Nordic Model is the same though.

So what socialist aspects exist exactly?

I already said

This goes back to me pointing out you have strong opinions on stuff you admit you know little about. It's not a great strategy.

How are social programs socialist? They don't transfer the MOP to workers.

I already argued with you about that

They transfer the capital gained from labor gained from the MOP. That's two steps unaccounted for.

but none of your points made sense

no

No, he made the argument that because capital is gained from the MOP that when you have capital you have the MOP.

Not gained from it, I argued that they are interchangeable

They aren't interchangeable at all though.

And yes, you do gain capital from MOP.

Just because you didn't say it doesn't mean you didn't mean it, and if you didn't mean it then you didn't understand your own statement.

I'll be right back.

Of course you gain capital from your mop

@Deleted User honestly it is the aesthetic of another server I'm in.

It's a libertarian one

But I do like what he ultimately accomplished in chile

I'm not actually libertarian, just really close to it

Who is Peron?

eva peron is an absolute legend

Was about to say lol