Message from @campodin
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We need a "Dont know, need more information" option in these polls.
Not gonna lie, I'm pretty ignorant about certain topics.
I just don’t answer the ones I know nothing about
You don’t have to answer every one
Social programs violate private property, turning it into the property of the state. Thus being collectively owned by all and distributed as the state sees fit.
Theoretically the state could tax all your wealth and then redistribute it at will so long as it was legal.
Bernie Sanders even started in one interview he wasn't against 100% taxation
is it racist to have racial preferences for dating?
@O. paxarbolis no but it makes you shallow
@O. paxarbolis no it's a good thing
me: yes, but who tf cares, people are too scared of being called racist
I'm making the case that in practicality there is no distinction @Deleted User
Then refute what I said
karl marx wasn't a fan of social welfare
so ideologically they're completely separate
@Deleted User and state ownership is collective ownership, I already addressed this
i didn't see that explanation
What the state owns is collectively owned by all. The state under their system has the right to tax everything. Meaning that the state theoretically can or does own everything.
yeah well the means of production tax isn't a common thing in social democracies
@Deleted User I don't know their system or how it is set up
"I don't really know anything about this topic but I have strong opinions and if you disagree with me you're an idiot." Surely you realize you're setting yourself up for failure.
My argument addresses specifically social democrats, I don't know enough about their system
I already did, repeatedly and thoroughly.
But I have nothing better to do with my holiday.
Bernie Sanders is a supporter of the Nordic Model.
Bernie Sanders doesn't understand the Nordic model
You don't either though. How can you make that statement authoritatively?
Because he has made factually inaccurate statements about it
Yeah, he doesn't understand it at all. Progressive taxes are actually terrible for the economy, which is why the Nordic Model is regressive.
The theft of the socialist label and anti-rich sentiment is just populist appeal.
Norway has more business freedom than America does.
@εïз irma εïз on that I'd agree
They're very much capitalist countries that use the same welfare programs you claim would make them socialist.
So you're making contradictory statements.
No I'm not
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Why not?
First off, socialism is not wealth distribution. Secondly, wealth distribution is not giving MOP to the people who receive the money in said distribution scheme. Thirdly, you cannot use point #1 to argue that point #2 is socialist for that reason.
If you chose not to read my explanation of this above then I can understand why you're still misunderstanding.
I never claimed the Nordic model was socialist. I claimed social programs are socialist