Message from @campodin

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2018-09-03 19:23:01 UTC  

yeah not everyone is equally as good at everything

2018-09-03 19:23:26 UTC  

the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.

2018-09-03 19:23:42 UTC  

Seems like it aims for complete social equality

2018-09-03 19:24:15 UTC  

You don't have the same rights or opportunities as someone with higher merit

2018-09-03 20:05:56 UTC  

This is the reason I watch anime.

2018-09-03 20:21:14 UTC  

We need a "Dont know, need more information" option in these polls.

2018-09-03 20:22:37 UTC  

Not gonna lie, I'm pretty ignorant about certain topics.

2018-09-03 21:03:22 UTC  

I just don’t answer the ones I know nothing about

2018-09-03 21:03:29 UTC  

You don’t have to answer every one

2018-09-03 21:21:37 UTC  

Social programs violate private property, turning it into the property of the state. Thus being collectively owned by all and distributed as the state sees fit.

2018-09-03 21:23:25 UTC  

Theoretically the state could tax all your wealth and then redistribute it at will so long as it was legal.

2018-09-03 21:24:29 UTC  

Bernie Sanders even started in one interview he wasn't against 100% taxation

2018-09-03 21:24:32 UTC  

is it racist to have racial preferences for dating?

2018-09-03 21:25:16 UTC  

@O. paxarbolis no but it makes you shallow

2018-09-03 21:25:25 UTC  

@O. paxarbolis no it's a good thing

2018-09-03 21:25:28 UTC  

me: yes, but who tf cares, people are too scared of being called racist

2018-09-03 21:25:35 UTC  

I'm making the case that in practicality there is no distinction @Deleted User

2018-09-03 21:26:07 UTC  

Then refute what I said

2018-09-03 21:26:30 UTC  

karl marx wasn't a fan of social welfare

2018-09-03 21:26:41 UTC  

so ideologically they're completely separate

2018-09-03 21:27:03 UTC  

@Deleted User and state ownership is collective ownership, I already addressed this

2018-09-03 21:27:46 UTC  

i didn't see that explanation

2018-09-03 21:30:52 UTC  

What the state owns is collectively owned by all. The state under their system has the right to tax everything. Meaning that the state theoretically can or does own everything.

2018-09-03 21:31:42 UTC  

yeah well the means of production tax isn't a common thing in social democracies

2018-09-03 21:32:25 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't know their system or how it is set up

2018-09-03 21:34:35 UTC  

@Deleted User I'd rather not talk about that as I'm not knowledgeable enough to discuss it.

2018-09-03 21:36:45 UTC  

"I don't really know anything about this topic but I have strong opinions and if you disagree with me you're an idiot." Surely you realize you're setting yourself up for failure.

2018-09-03 21:37:09 UTC  

My argument addresses specifically social democrats, I don't know enough about their system

2018-09-03 21:37:12 UTC  

I already did, repeatedly and thoroughly.

2018-09-03 21:37:20 UTC  

But I have nothing better to do with my holiday.

2018-09-03 21:38:12 UTC  

Bernie Sanders is a supporter of the Nordic Model.

2018-09-03 21:38:32 UTC  

Bernie Sanders doesn't understand the Nordic model

2018-09-03 21:38:43 UTC  

You don't either though. How can you make that statement authoritatively?

2018-09-03 21:39:05 UTC  

Because he has made factually inaccurate statements about it

2018-09-03 21:39:26 UTC  

Yeah, he doesn't understand it at all. Progressive taxes are actually terrible for the economy, which is why the Nordic Model is regressive.

2018-09-03 21:39:38 UTC  

The theft of the socialist label and anti-rich sentiment is just populist appeal.

2018-09-03 21:40:04 UTC  

Norway has more business freedom than America does.

2018-09-03 21:40:19 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз on that I'd agree

2018-09-03 21:40:21 UTC  

They're very much capitalist countries that use the same welfare programs you claim would make them socialist.

2018-09-03 21:40:28 UTC  

So you're making contradictory statements.

2018-09-03 21:40:35 UTC  

No I'm not