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2018-09-09 16:49:49 UTC  

do you even know what communism or fascism are?

2018-09-09 16:49:51 UTC  

No lmao

2018-09-09 16:49:55 UTC  

To jay

2018-09-09 16:50:15 UTC  

your answer fits my question

2018-09-09 16:50:17 UTC  

But also to Zeigler.

2018-09-09 16:50:18 UTC  

lol are you 14? pretty sure those arent difficult concepts

2018-09-09 16:50:30 UTC  

Soviets are most dedicated to their state

2018-09-09 16:50:33 UTC  

lmfao

2018-09-09 16:50:49 UTC  

thats 1. impossible to prove and 2. history proves its wrong

2018-09-09 16:50:53 UTC  
2018-09-09 16:50:57 UTC  

no it's very easy to prove

2018-09-09 16:51:08 UTC  

The only time Soviets were dedicated to the state was when the personality cult of Stalin was forced down their throat and simultaneously they were being brutally invaded.

2018-09-09 16:51:12 UTC  

the Soviets at the top were not even ethnic Russians

2018-09-09 16:51:18 UTC  

@Jay1532 Have you ever been to Russia or?

2018-09-09 16:51:33 UTC  

I don't think so

2018-09-09 16:51:34 UTC  

they dismantled the state they belonged to, killed its former leaders, and then killed millions of its people

2018-09-09 16:51:35 UTC  

Yeah, afaik they are only loyal to personality cults

2018-09-09 16:51:39 UTC  

russia isnt soviet anymore???

2018-09-09 16:51:41 UTC  

Zeiglar is right

2018-09-09 16:51:50 UTC  

in terms of the history of communism in russia

2018-09-09 16:51:55 UTC  

loyalty was never part of the equation

2018-09-09 16:52:01 UTC  

the Soviets were subverters

2018-09-09 16:52:04 UTC  

it was more of an oppressive ideology meant to well... genocide millions

2018-09-09 16:52:07 UTC  

@Jay1532 Lots of its citizens are still loyal to the soviets even if they are gone

2018-09-09 16:52:17 UTC  

ok? thats just rose-tinted glasses

2018-09-09 16:52:18 UTC  

because Russians are a race of fucking brainlet peasants

2018-09-09 16:52:19 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir I'm not talking about their ideology

2018-09-09 16:52:23 UTC  

The pan-socialist quasinationalism that the Soviets tried to force on the republics and the rest of the Warsaw Pact was almost completely rejected.

2018-09-09 16:52:29 UTC  

I'm not talking about ideology either

2018-09-09 16:52:39 UTC  

the fact is that they weren't Russians, they subverted Russia

2018-09-09 16:52:47 UTC  

and they dont look fondly on marxism, they look back fondly on imperialism

2018-09-09 16:52:51 UTC  
2018-09-09 16:52:58 UTC  

they had a huge geography under their hegemony

2018-09-09 16:53:00 UTC  

Because they remember the glory days of rivaling american supremacy

2018-09-09 16:53:03 UTC  

I know, Id say people were loyal to the idea of the great soviet Russia, this mythical ethereal spirit of the russian people, that simply took on a new name. The loyalty was there during the war, however afterwards its hard to say they were particularly loyal.

2018-09-09 16:53:04 UTC  

you think they like that, or bread lines

2018-09-09 16:53:05 UTC  

lol

2018-09-09 16:53:08 UTC  

then what the fuck are you talking about "soviet loyalty"???

2018-09-09 16:53:10 UTC  

so loyal to bread lines im sure

2018-09-09 16:53:22 UTC  

Soviet nostalgia is rooted in nationalism, not actually liking the Soviet Union. If the transition to democracy wasn't completely fucked by Yeltsin there would be next to no nostalgia for the Soviet Union today.

2018-09-09 16:53:42 UTC