Communists kill each other to get ahead

so loyalty is found under the gun?

seems more like intimidation than loyalty

do you even know what communism or fascism are?

No lmao

To jay

your answer fits my question

But also to Zeigler.

lol are you 14? pretty sure those arent difficult concepts

Soviets are most dedicated to their state

lmfao

thats 1. impossible to prove and 2. history proves its wrong

@Doctor Anon

no it's very easy to prove

The only time Soviets were dedicated to the state was when the personality cult of Stalin was forced down their throat and simultaneously they were being brutally invaded.

the Soviets at the top were not even ethnic Russians

@Jay1532 Have you ever been to Russia or?

I don't think so

they dismantled the state they belonged to, killed its former leaders, and then killed millions of its people

Yeah, afaik they are only loyal to personality cults

russia isnt soviet anymore???

Zeiglar is right

in terms of the history of communism in russia

loyalty was never part of the equation

the Soviets were subverters

it was more of an oppressive ideology meant to well... genocide millions

@Jay1532 Lots of its citizens are still loyal to the soviets even if they are gone

ok? thats just rose-tinted glasses

because Russians are a race of fucking brainlet peasants

@Bogatyr Bogumir I'm not talking about their ideology

The pan-socialist quasinationalism that the Soviets tried to force on the republics and the rest of the Warsaw Pact was almost completely rejected.

I'm not talking about ideology either

the fact is that they weren't Russians, they subverted Russia

and they dont look fondly on marxism, they look back fondly on imperialism

Ik @Deleted User

they had a huge geography under their hegemony

Because they remember the glory days of rivaling american supremacy

I know, Id say people were loyal to the idea of the great soviet Russia, this mythical ethereal spirit of the russian people, that simply took on a new name. The loyalty was there during the war, however afterwards its hard to say they were particularly loyal.

you think they like that, or bread lines

lol

then what the fuck are you talking about "soviet loyalty"???