Politics is an agressive thing, and we have two ways to go about it, agressive verbal sport such that blood may quench the thirst of the masses, alternatively we may fling fecal matter, or just shitpost.

that’s three

But I would say that liberals are leftists, they can range from proerply let to center left, however the positions of liberalism put it firmly in the camp of the left and this is also why the left has been defined by liberalism for the past, what, 50-100 years?

Liberals <:unequal:473954748517842954> Leftist

that's the point I was trying to make more or less but I'm ass at explaining shit

imo liberals lie firmly in the centre

lmao

from the centre-right to centre-left

I don't think you're completely wrong, there's a spectrum

shit's nuanced of course

Liberals are naturally centre right but it's been infected with pure leftists

at this point, if you are referring to classical liberals thats what you say

not liberals

liberals has a usage meaning in america

They can be, but most venture and drift off to the left, radically. Finding a right wing liberal is often almost impossible. There are these outliers but so few and far ebetween. Id put classical liberals in the center.

and afaik this is a majority american server

firmly in the center.

Free market Capitalisitic
Nationalist
Individual rights

yeah that shit is gay

Liberalism cant really be nationalist, but then agian I need to review on the core tenants of liberalism and the logic of it

Nationalism is not gay dickweed

the only thing special about these more "right leaning" liberals is that they just take longer to integrate with the marxists

libertarian has superseded the usage of classical liberal

generally its issue from what I remember being is that its radical individualism was the issue

but thats from when I last read up on liberalism and I had little time to do so

:/

Nationalism isn't completely gay, but it's been muddied up so much by patriotard boomers

and other fuckwits

if you care about who thinks what

that makes you a brainlet contrarian

if you didn’t care about who thinks what you wouldn’t be on a political server

i care about what is thought

not who thinks it

its not some fashion

Loyalty of communists + nationalism of Fascism

Yes plz

lmao

communists arent loyal

>loyalty of communists

they killed more royals than any other group in history

thats the opposite of loyalty? afaik??