i’m not sure how this ties into being leftist though

because the concept of "The West" came into being to pave the way for liberalism a couple centuries ago

to say they're leftists is a bit of a misnomer

it's more liberal than anything

but it's a lot of the same shit

yeah nah

and liberal =/= leftist smhmh

yeah you're right

there's a lot of overlap tho

Yes, liberal means leftist, you know its meant stop wasting our time with such a bland objection to a word usage you understand. Poor discourse

not really in this context though

fucking what

don't be a nerd

You are talking about theoretical politics in a political server. None of us can accuse of being a nerd, do you see that is absurd?

yeah but you talk like a nerd my guy

you're fucking rhyming

every time i check this server i want to die more and more

Wow, i allegedly rhymed what a quality discourse. Kys

"quality discourse"

*a l l e g e d l y*

I do declare, sirrah, thine banter is most superfluous

i feel like making a list of the shittiest people i’ve met on this server

You would easily top my list, adam

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the feeling’s mutual xoxo

Politics is an agressive thing, and we have two ways to go about it, agressive verbal sport such that blood may quench the thirst of the masses, alternatively we may fling fecal matter, or just shitpost.

that’s three

But I would say that liberals are leftists, they can range from proerply let to center left, however the positions of liberalism put it firmly in the camp of the left and this is also why the left has been defined by liberalism for the past, what, 50-100 years?

Liberals <:unequal:473954748517842954> Leftist

that's the point I was trying to make more or less but I'm ass at explaining shit

imo liberals lie firmly in the centre

lmao

from the centre-right to centre-left

I don't think you're completely wrong, there's a spectrum

shit's nuanced of course

Liberals are naturally centre right but it's been infected with pure leftists

at this point, if you are referring to classical liberals thats what you say

not liberals

liberals has a usage meaning in america

They can be, but most venture and drift off to the left, radically. Finding a right wing liberal is often almost impossible. There are these outliers but so few and far ebetween. Id put classical liberals in the center.

and afaik this is a majority american server